Comments on: The Dinosaur and the Journalist http://dannybrown.me/2008/10/04/the-dinosaur-and-the-journalist/ Conversations in social media for marketing, PR, communications and community Tue, 16 Mar 2010 17:49:06 -0500 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: Roger Hjulstrom http://dannybrown.me/2008/10/04/the-dinosaur-and-the-journalist/#comment-9090 Roger Hjulstrom Mon, 31 Aug 2009 13:24:30 +0000 http://dannybrown.me/?p=224#comment-9090 Great post Danny, missed this one somehow. I have a problem with anyone who is stuck in the "this is the way it's always done" mode. If they can cite valid reasons, that's a different matter, but tradition often just holds back progress. I love your last line! Great post Danny, missed this one somehow. I have a problem with anyone who is stuck in the “this is the way it's always done” mode. If they can cite valid reasons, that's a different matter, but tradition often just holds back progress. I love your last line!

]]> By: laurenfernandez http://dannybrown.me/2008/10/04/the-dinosaur-and-the-journalist/#comment-9089 laurenfernandez Mon, 31 Aug 2009 13:15:41 +0000 http://dannybrown.me/?p=224#comment-9089 I think that bloggers have the freedom to express their opinions where journalists do not. This is pitting them against each other, whether it's envy, miscommunication or just not understanding the journalism world. I think it's easier to attack and blatantly dismiss, like Blatchford did, then try to change the way your profession looks at things. It's all about buy-in. I think that bloggers have the freedom to express their opinions where journalists do not. This is pitting them against each other, whether it's envy, miscommunication or just not understanding the journalism world. I think it's easier to attack and blatantly dismiss, like Blatchford did, then try to change the way your profession looks at things. It's all about buy-in.

]]> By: booksbelow http://dannybrown.me/2008/10/04/the-dinosaur-and-the-journalist/#comment-14401 booksbelow Mon, 31 Aug 2009 08:24:38 +0000 http://dannybrown.me/?p=224#comment-14401 Missed this! Good read RT @CubanaLAF: Blogging and the death of proper journalism" http://bit.ly/jlfSC by @DannyBrown. LOVED this post.<p class="ubervu_reaction_link">via <a href="http://www.ubervu.com/conversations/dannybrown.me%2F2008%2F10%2F04%2Fthe-dinosaur-and-the-journalist%2F">uberVU</a></p> Missed this! Good read RT @CubanaLAF: Blogging and the death of proper journalism" http://bit.ly/jlfSC by @DannyBrown. LOVED this post.

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]]> By: CubanaLAF http://dannybrown.me/2008/10/04/the-dinosaur-and-the-journalist/#comment-14400 CubanaLAF Mon, 31 Aug 2009 08:17:29 +0000 http://dannybrown.me/?p=224#comment-14400 Blogging and the death of proper journalism" http://bit.ly/jlfSC by @DannyBrown. LOVED this post.<p class="ubervu_reaction_link">via <a href="http://www.ubervu.com/conversations/dannybrown.me%2F2008%2F10%2F04%2Fthe-dinosaur-and-the-journalist%2F">uberVU</a></p> Blogging and the death of proper journalism" http://bit.ly/jlfSC by @DannyBrown. LOVED this post.

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]]> By: Danny Brown http://dannybrown.me/2008/10/04/the-dinosaur-and-the-journalist/#comment-9084 Danny Brown Mon, 31 Aug 2009 01:19:33 +0000 http://dannybrown.me/?p=224#comment-9084 There's certainly no attack meant on journalism here, "Proudjournalist". Instead, it's a reflection and a look at journalists that are so averse to moving with the times that they come out in attack mode themselves, like Christie did. As I mention in the post, this isn't just restricted to journalism - there are many other professions. Marketing, PR, advertising in the creative field, for example, suffer from the same malaise in many circles.<br><br>The bloggers "putting journalists to shame" are the ones that are doing the research every day just like all good journalists do, but they often temper it more with extended views and opinion. As you say, this may be down to the fact that many journos aren't allowed to express opinions that they wish they could. If this is the case, this is more down to the publication than the individual, and one reason why journalism and the print industry is currently suffering.<br><br>I have absolutely nothing against journalists - some of my closest friends and connections are journalists or editors. What I do feel disappointed in is, as mentioned, those that have the opportunity to grow and learn, but instead dismiss and ridicule. It's true that more often than not, journalists are held to a higher standard. Yet even this is changing, with readers of blogs far more savvy than many outlets give them credit for, and they'll soon spot (and call foul on) BS a mile off.<br><br>Thanks for stopping by and sharing your views, much appreciated. There's certainly no attack meant on journalism here, “Proudjournalist”. Instead, it's a reflection and a look at journalists that are so averse to moving with the times that they come out in attack mode themselves, like Christie did. As I mention in the post, this isn't just restricted to journalism – there are many other professions. Marketing, PR, advertising in the creative field, for example, suffer from the same malaise in many circles.

The bloggers “putting journalists to shame” are the ones that are doing the research every day just like all good journalists do, but they often temper it more with extended views and opinion. As you say, this may be down to the fact that many journos aren't allowed to express opinions that they wish they could. If this is the case, this is more down to the publication than the individual, and one reason why journalism and the print industry is currently suffering.

I have absolutely nothing against journalists – some of my closest friends and connections are journalists or editors. What I do feel disappointed in is, as mentioned, those that have the opportunity to grow and learn, but instead dismiss and ridicule. It's true that more often than not, journalists are held to a higher standard. Yet even this is changing, with readers of blogs far more savvy than many outlets give them credit for, and they'll soon spot (and call foul on) BS a mile off.

Thanks for stopping by and sharing your views, much appreciated.

]]> By: proudjournalist http://dannybrown.me/2008/10/04/the-dinosaur-and-the-journalist/#comment-9083 proudjournalist Mon, 31 Aug 2009 01:09:02 +0000 http://dannybrown.me/?p=224#comment-9083 As a journalist, I feel no animosity or competition with bloggers and I don't see why there is a constant comparison. The blogs that I do read are often full of opinion that I just am not allowed to include in my stories. I don't feel good or bad about that fact. It just IS. What bloggers are "putting journalists to shame?" In what way? I must admit, I did take offense at what appeared to be an undeserved attack on journalism with this post. If anything, we're held to a higher standard than bloggers. Bloggers get it wrong and it's like, "Oh well, he was a blogger..." Journalists get it wrong and.. well, you saw what happened to Dan Rather, didn't you? As a journalist, I feel no animosity or competition with bloggers and I don't see why there is a constant comparison. The blogs that I do read are often full of opinion that I just am not allowed to include in my stories. I don't feel good or bad about that fact. It just IS. What bloggers are “putting journalists to shame?” In what way? I must admit, I did take offense at what appeared to be an undeserved attack on journalism with this post. If anything, we're held to a higher standard than bloggers. Bloggers get it wrong and it's like, “Oh well, he was a blogger…” Journalists get it wrong and.. well, you saw what happened to Dan Rather, didn't you?

]]> By: Sasha H. Muradali http://dannybrown.me/2008/10/04/the-dinosaur-and-the-journalist/#comment-9081 Sasha H. Muradali Mon, 31 Aug 2009 00:54:23 +0000 http://dannybrown.me/?p=224#comment-9081 No kidding, an easier target being PR is an understatement!<br><br>I don't like what I read about that Blatchford woman. Even my professors of Journalism in college, who thought PR was the "dark side," would never say something like that. They believed that journalism was communicating the news to the public and encouraging them to engage in their communities, create change and most of all just educate them. It was the farthest thing from one-way communication.<br><br>I don't think she's credible as a writer -- even if she understands AP Style. Writers are communicators. Obviously, this woman isn't.<br><br>On that note, I don't think journalists need to worry about citizen journalists or bloggers and vice-versa. I think each of these compliments the other. It's not about a competition to see who can get the most comments, hits or readers. It's about communicating the ideas and the stories of our world and the times we live in. Nothing more nothing less.<br><br>That's my opinion anyway :)<br><br>Sasha No kidding, an easier target being PR is an understatement!

I don't like what I read about that Blatchford woman. Even my professors of Journalism in college, who thought PR was the “dark side,” would never say something like that. They believed that journalism was communicating the news to the public and encouraging them to engage in their communities, create change and most of all just educate them. It was the farthest thing from one-way communication.

I don't think she's credible as a writer — even if she understands AP Style. Writers are communicators. Obviously, this woman isn't.

On that note, I don't think journalists need to worry about citizen journalists or bloggers and vice-versa. I think each of these compliments the other. It's not about a competition to see who can get the most comments, hits or readers. It's about communicating the ideas and the stories of our world and the times we live in. Nothing more nothing less.

That's my opinion anyway :)

Sasha

]]> By: joelor http://dannybrown.me/2008/10/04/the-dinosaur-and-the-journalist/#comment-14402 joelor Sun, 30 Aug 2009 22:35:47 +0000 http://dannybrown.me/?p=224#comment-14402 "Blogging and the death of proper journalism" http://bit.ly/jlfSC by @DannyBrown<p class="ubervu_reaction_link">via <a href="http://www.ubervu.com/conversations/dannybrown.me%2F2008%2F10%2F04%2Fthe-dinosaur-and-the-journalist%2F">uberVU</a></p> "Blogging and the death of proper journalism" http://bit.ly/jlfSC by @DannyBrown

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]]> By: Danny http://dannybrown.me/2008/10/04/the-dinosaur-and-the-journalist/#comment-112 Danny Tue, 14 Oct 2008 14:02:10 +0000 http://dannybrown.me/?p=224#comment-112 @ CD Rates Blog - I think that's the biggest problem, Chris, the "lack of trust" between journalists and bloggers, and vice versa. There's a wonderful opportunity to use the strengths of both mediums to offer a wider and encapsulating news source, both instant and ongoing. The best journalists have realized that engaging bloggers is more beneficial than dismissing them. At the same time, the more level-headed bloggers realize that collating information with journalists as opposed to keeping them outside the blogosphere can offer depth and authority to a piece. Perhaps we'll get there sooner rather than later if we can change the minds of people like Latchford and other journalists/bloggers that prefer a closed environment. It's certainly worth a try. Thanks for reading and sharing your views, appreciated. @ CD Rates Blog – I think that’s the biggest problem, Chris, the “lack of trust” between journalists and bloggers, and vice versa.

There’s a wonderful opportunity to use the strengths of both mediums to offer a wider and encapsulating news source, both instant and ongoing. The best journalists have realized that engaging bloggers is more beneficial than dismissing them.

At the same time, the more level-headed bloggers realize that collating information with journalists as opposed to keeping them outside the blogosphere can offer depth and authority to a piece.

Perhaps we’ll get there sooner rather than later if we can change the minds of people like Latchford and other journalists/bloggers that prefer a closed environment. It’s certainly worth a try.

Thanks for reading and sharing your views, appreciated.

]]> By: CD Rates Blog http://dannybrown.me/2008/10/04/the-dinosaur-and-the-journalist/#comment-111 CD Rates Blog Tue, 14 Oct 2008 13:51:55 +0000 http://dannybrown.me/?p=224#comment-111 Blatchford needs to realize things change. People use to use typewriters. Then they used typewriters with correction tape, then simple word processors, etc. I do believe many journalists feel bloggers don't take the time to investigate the facts and information. And to some extent that is correct. But, just as readers of a newspaper can switch papers, readers of a blog can go elsewhere. The difference here is the blog encourages immediate conversation and allows for points of views to be changed or additional information to be given. A letter to the editor may not be published for days after the original article and the author of the article may or may not take the time to read the letter. A journalist that would also blog would be a great combination. <abbr><em>CD Rates Blog´s last blog post..<a href="http://jumbocdinvestments.com/cd_rates_blog/2008/10/10/10-day-give/" rel="nofollow">10-Day Give</a></abbr></em> Blatchford needs to realize things change. People use to use typewriters. Then they used typewriters with correction tape, then simple word processors, etc.

I do believe many journalists feel bloggers don’t take the time to investigate the facts and information. And to some extent that is correct. But, just as readers of a newspaper can switch papers, readers of a blog can go elsewhere. The difference here is the blog encourages immediate conversation and allows for points of views to be changed or additional information to be given. A letter to the editor may not be published for days after the original article and the author of the article may or may not take the time to read the letter.

A journalist that would also blog would be a great combination.

CD Rates Blog´s last blog post..10-Day Give

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