Comments on: Clouding The Issue http://dannybrown.me/2009/01/15/clouding-the-issue/ The Human Side of Media and the Social Side of Marketing Mon, 13 Feb 2012 06:36:25 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Danny Brown http://dannybrown.me/2009/01/15/clouding-the-issue/#comment-1490 Danny Brown Sat, 17 Jan 2009 01:39:53 +0000 http://dannybrown.me/?p=3339#comment-1490 Fair point, Mitch, and I'd agree with it to a degree. Though I think the fact that the person hasn't responded to direct contact says a lot as well. I have a feeling I know what the reason is, and if it turns out to be so, it's incredibly petty. However, like you say, volunteering is a volunteer thing which is what 12for12k has been right from the start. People volunteering their time for nothing; people volunteering suggestions for charities to support; and the choice whether you want to support a particular month's charity or not. Maybe I'm just supporting the guys I have around me - nothing wrong with that, right? ;-) Thanks for sharing your view, appreciate it. Fair point, Mitch, and I'd agree with it to a degree. Though I think the fact that the person hasn't responded to direct contact says a lot as well. I have a feeling I know what the reason is, and if it turns out to be so, it's incredibly petty.

However, like you say, volunteering is a volunteer thing which is what 12for12k has been right from the start. People volunteering their time for nothing; people volunteering suggestions for charities to support; and the choice whether you want to support a particular month's charity or not.

Maybe I'm just supporting the guys I have around me – nothing wrong with that, right? ;-)

Thanks for sharing your view, appreciate it.

]]> By: Mitch http://dannybrown.me/2009/01/15/clouding-the-issue/#comment-1495 Mitch Sat, 17 Jan 2009 00:25:58 +0000 http://dannybrown.me/?p=3339#comment-1495 I'm a loyalty guy, so nope, nothing wrong with that at all. I'm a loyalty guy, so nope, nothing wrong with that at all.

]]> By: Mitch http://dannybrown.me/2009/01/15/clouding-the-issue/#comment-1489 Mitch Fri, 16 Jan 2009 20:08:33 +0000 http://dannybrown.me/?p=3339#comment-1489 Interesting post, Danny. Though it hasn't happened to me, I think that I might end up in the petty category if it came down to voluntarily working with someone I didn't respect in some fashion. Now, if it was at work, and we both worked at the same place, that's different, because work is work, and I don't deal with things like that at work, but when it crosses into my personal time, or my money,... I just might be the same way. Or I might not; it's interesting, in a way, that this person knows someone on your team and has a problem with them. If it were me in your spot, I might just have to probe to see what's up, because, well, maybe there is something about that person that I didn't know. And if that's not the case, well, then I'd just move on to the next person. After all, volunteering IS a volunteer thing, right? Interesting post, Danny. Though it hasn't happened to me, I think that I might end up in the petty category if it came down to voluntarily working with someone I didn't respect in some fashion. Now, if it was at work, and we both worked at the same place, that's different, because work is work, and I don't deal with things like that at work, but when it crosses into my personal time, or my money,… I just might be the same way.

Or I might not; it's interesting, in a way, that this person knows someone on your team and has a problem with them. If it were me in your spot, I might just have to probe to see what's up, because, well, maybe there is something about that person that I didn't know. And if that's not the case, well, then I'd just move on to the next person. After all, volunteering IS a volunteer thing, right?

]]> By: Danny Brown http://dannybrown.me/2009/01/15/clouding-the-issue/#comment-1486 Danny Brown Fri, 16 Jan 2009 16:08:23 +0000 http://dannybrown.me/?p=3339#comment-1486 I can see that point, which is why we make it clear that all on the team are offering services for free, and that donation links go directly to the charity, there is no middle connection. Onwards and upwards. :) I can see that point, which is why we make it clear that all on the team are offering services for free, and that donation links go directly to the charity, there is no middle connection.

Onwards and upwards. :)

]]> By: Danny Brown http://dannybrown.me/2009/01/15/clouding-the-issue/#comment-1485 Danny Brown Fri, 16 Jan 2009 16:07:15 +0000 http://dannybrown.me/?p=3339#comment-1485 Thanks Jac - whatever the reason, unless ethical, the person doesn't even have to deal with whoever is causing the problem. In this case, it's innocents that suffer because of it - that's the kicker. Thanks Jac – whatever the reason, unless ethical, the person doesn't even have to deal with whoever is causing the problem. In this case, it's innocents that suffer because of it – that's the kicker.

]]> By: Dyana Valentine http://dannybrown.me/2009/01/15/clouding-the-issue/#comment-1484 Dyana Valentine Fri, 16 Jan 2009 16:06:56 +0000 http://dannybrown.me/?p=3339#comment-1484 great perspective. hang in there and have some FUN today! great perspective. hang in there and have some FUN today!

]]> By: Danny Brown http://dannybrown.me/2009/01/15/clouding-the-issue/#comment-1483 Danny Brown Fri, 16 Jan 2009 16:05:25 +0000 http://dannybrown.me/?p=3339#comment-1483 I agree Andrew. The email has gone and it's up to the person involved whether they want to clarify their views or not - like you say, there are more pressing issues at hand that are far more important. This blog post is my "vent", if you like - now I'm off to raise some money! :) I agree Andrew. The email has gone and it's up to the person involved whether they want to clarify their views or not – like you say, there are more pressing issues at hand that are far more important.

This blog post is my "vent", if you like – now I'm off to raise some money! :)

]]> By: Danny Brown http://dannybrown.me/2009/01/15/clouding-the-issue/#comment-1482 Danny Brown Fri, 16 Jan 2009 16:04:56 +0000 http://dannybrown.me/?p=3339#comment-1482 As with Andrew, completely agree with you Dyana. We've had many people come back and say "No", and that's fine. We know and understand it won't be for everyone. I guess I was just perplexed that an "issue" with people that I know are all fine human beings confused me. But, 12for12k is for a bigger reason than any of us - and that's the most important thing. As with Andrew, completely agree with you Dyana.

We've had many people come back and say "No", and that's fine. We know and understand it won't be for everyone. I guess I was just perplexed that an "issue" with people that I know are all fine human beings confused me.

But, 12for12k is for a bigger reason than any of us – and that's the most important thing.

]]> By: Dyana Valentine http://dannybrown.me/2009/01/15/clouding-the-issue/#comment-1479 Dyana Valentine Fri, 16 Jan 2009 15:26:31 +0000 http://dannybrown.me/?p=3339#comment-1479 I have two cents to add to Andrew's, which is very well and completely said. It is very important that the energy around your project remain clear, so you can go do the good you want to do. When soliciting support, there really are only three things you are listening for, yes, no, not right now (but check back in with me on x date). And only three responses: thank you, thank you and thank you. There must be room for the three answers to your request and the response is simply required. Don't let this moment derail you. Move on, keep the vibe high and very best of luck. I have two cents to add to Andrew's, which is very well and completely said. It is very important that the energy around your project remain clear, so you can go do the good you want to do. When soliciting support, there really are only three things you are listening for, yes, no, not right now (but check back in with me on x date). And only three responses: thank you, thank you and thank you. There must be room for the three answers to your request and the response is simply required. Don't let this moment derail you.

Move on, keep the vibe high and very best of luck.

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