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Let’s say you amassed a large tribe on your favorite social network.
A large tribe does not mean a large number of followers, but it does mean a respectable size that actively shares what you’re doing without your involvement.
Your tribe gets bigger and managing it evolves into a full time job. You need money to keep it going.
What Could You Do?
- You could use affiliate links for items you recommend the tribe uses.
- You could send sponsored messages and encourage the tribe to visit your sponsors.
- You could integrate a brand into your tribe.
The Problem With The Coulds
Option one isn’t too bad. The key is to disclose to your tribe, in multiple visible places, that you use affiliate links.
Option two won’t work, and should be avoided. If you throw advertisements at your tribe, you guarantee some will leave and spread negativity about you.
In addition to chasing members away, like the affiliate links, a critical mass of click-throughs would be needed for this to make it worthwhile. Indicating the message is sponsored in some way will limit your success.
If you want to advertise, advertise where your audience would be receptive to it (such as on your blog, in a newsletter), but a social network is no place for traditional advertising.
The last option is tricky. If a company offers something valuable, that is relevant and useful to your tribe, and it helps you continue your project, it should be considered.
But, if a company comes to you and tries to ram their product into your efforts, or even worse, you become a shill,blurring your cause or project into a commercial, this is the worst thing you can do to your tribe.
Unfortunately, option three is happening increasingly as brands learn they don’t need big advertising campaigns, just a handful of “influencers” to get the word out. The why behind this is beyond what we’re discussing, but it is happening, and killing good projects as it does.
What Should You Do?
Option two is junk, don’t bother with it. Option one is okay as long as you inform your audience, but you have to be patient and plan for the long haul for affiliate links to be worth it.
Option three, can be a powerful thing. But it has to be done the right way:
- A barrier needs to be formed. Your message can’t become the sponsor’s message.
- Like the affiliate links, you have to clearly layout your relationship with the company in multiple locations.
- Don’t use money to decide what brand you should team with. Make sure you have a logical fit, preferably one that fits the needs of your tribe.
- Promote in moderation. This segment was brought to you by Sprint, using an example from my previous project, is more powerful than “Oh my god I love Sprint, they are so awesome #Sprint #cellphones”.
- Be honest. If you need to keep your tribe going, tell them you reached out to a related company to help you, and in turn you are promoting something that could be useful to the tribe.
Let’s be clear: There will always be members of the tribe who resist advertising, regardless of form. But by following these steps, you can alleviate concerns and hopefully create a beneficial relationship between your advertiser and your tribe that allows you to fuel your project.
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Great info! It definitely can be a touchy subject … but one that's not going away as more and more people find ways to make a living online. Thanks for exploring ways to make it “work” for both sides. *SmiLes* Suzanne
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Nice article and very true. It's funny, I just finished reading the Tribes book last night and haven't been able to stop thinking about it. I agree with you, pushing advertisements on your tribe will KILL any credibility with them and pushing affiliate links could work, but as you said, you need to stick that out for the long haul.
I think that if there's something you can personally sell that will benefit your tribe and is a genuine product/service, you can win this way as well. Building the product/service because it's beneficial to your tribe is key though. Without the benefit, you're not helping – you're selling – and they'll know it.
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Do we need to monetize our tribe, or simply allow it to enrich our lives? http://tinyurl.com/mzyus2
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For me, the tribe is about communication, sharing, enlightening, learning…and the benefits are due to personal value add (I simply enjoy the interaction and connection to others) or it's about professional value add (I apply what I learn and reap the benefit in my other endeavors) so I've never thought about equating the time spent with my tribe to a need for any monetary return. Make your money elsewhere, not from the bond that makes a tribe a tribe in the first place.
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I'm generally with you on this topic, Mark. But, as Robert (Greenstar) mentions above, if it's something that will benefit your community, is that more acceptable? I don't have ads or sales pushes on my blog, but obviously people like Chris Brogan, Darren Rowse and Brian Clark do and it works for them and their audience.
I'm not in their league as far as blog audience goes but say I was to start doing book reviews that were applicable to my readers – would I be wrong in using an Amazon affiliate link, for instance?
It's a funny one for sure.
You make a good point Danny, as I have two pages – one for books, one for videos – on my site that link to Amazon. I make about 10 cents per month on the deal, but did it mainly to highlight information of use to my readers. So yes, it's a funny one as you say, figuring out where to draw the line – a very personal decision.
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I appreciate the advice, as I'm someone who currently doesn't have advertising but would like to incorporate it, but trying to find a balance between earning some cash and compromising the integrity of a website is a tough one, especially for the inexperienced.
Cheers
Roy