Comments on: Shit is Still Shit No Matter How You Dress It http://dannybrown.me/2009/10/13/shit-is-still-shit-no-matter-how-you-dress-it/ Connecting human media and social business Fri, 03 Sep 2010 05:37:17 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.0.1 By: Danny Brown http://dannybrown.me/2009/10/13/shit-is-still-shit-no-matter-how-you-dress-it/#comment-9869 Danny Brown Sat, 31 Oct 2009 15:07:45 +0000 http://dannybrown.me/?p=8494#comment-9869 Me, edgy? Perish the thought... ;-)<br><br>I'm not surprised you did this, Rach - one of the reasons I recommend you whenever someone asks about PR pros and agencies doing great stuff. :) Me, edgy? Perish the thought… ;-)

I'm not surprised you did this, Rach – one of the reasons I recommend you whenever someone asks about PR pros and agencies doing great stuff. :)

]]> By: rachelakay http://dannybrown.me/2009/10/13/shit-is-still-shit-no-matter-how-you-dress-it/#comment-9868 rachelakay Fri, 30 Oct 2009 19:16:26 +0000 http://dannybrown.me/?p=8494#comment-9868 I'm sort of late to game on this Danny, but I hadn't seen this post before. I won't regurgitate the good points made here, but I wanted to chime in and say I am doing my part. I actually received a highly targeted, spam press release several weeks ago. Perhaps I was feeling edgy (like you were when you wrote this post :)) but I responded back asking why on earth I would be added to a list like that because I'm not a journalist (aside from my blogging but this was unrelated) and explaining that their actions are doing nothing to elevate our profession. They responded with an apology, and promised to remove me as well as any other PR people from the list. Not perfect, but hopefully it was an eye opener. It doesn't feel good when one of your peers calls you out. I'm sort of late to game on this Danny, but I hadn't seen this post before. I won't regurgitate the good points made here, but I wanted to chime in and say I am doing my part. I actually received a highly targeted, spam press release several weeks ago. Perhaps I was feeling edgy (like you were when you wrote this post :) ) but I responded back asking why on earth I would be added to a list like that because I'm not a journalist (aside from my blogging but this was unrelated) and explaining that their actions are doing nothing to elevate our profession. They responded with an apology, and promised to remove me as well as any other PR people from the list. Not perfect, but hopefully it was an eye opener. It doesn't feel good when one of your peers calls you out.

]]> By: David Mullen http://dannybrown.me/2009/10/13/shit-is-still-shit-no-matter-how-you-dress-it/#comment-9760 David Mullen Fri, 23 Oct 2009 04:24:20 +0000 http://dannybrown.me/?p=8494#comment-9760 Thanks for the nod, Danny. Appreciate that!<br><br>Nothing wrong with that title. A fact is a fact. You can polish a sneaker all you want, but it's still a sneaker. Thanks for the nod, Danny. Appreciate that!

Nothing wrong with that title. A fact is a fact. You can polish a sneaker all you want, but it's still a sneaker.

]]> By: JessicaCRB http://dannybrown.me/2009/10/13/shit-is-still-shit-no-matter-how-you-dress-it/#comment-13153 JessicaCRB Sun, 18 Oct 2009 22:51:11 +0000 http://dannybrown.me/?p=8494#comment-13153 Agreed RT @DannyBrown shit is still shit no matter how you dress it.... http://bit.ly/bcQkv<p class="ubervu_reaction_link">via <a href="http://www.ubervu.com/conversations/dannybrown.me%2F2009%2F10%2F13%2Fshit-is-still-shit-no-matter-how-you-dress-it%2F">uberVU</a></p> Agreed RT @DannyBrown shit is still shit no matter how you dress it…. http://bit.ly/bcQkv

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]]> By: Danny Brown http://dannybrown.me/2009/10/13/shit-is-still-shit-no-matter-how-you-dress-it/#comment-9712 Danny Brown Sun, 18 Oct 2009 21:11:43 +0000 http://dannybrown.me/?p=8494#comment-9712 It's definitely getting to the stage that you just don't want to "help" anymore, Ed. Like you say (and others here, including @CTK1), should we still be trying to help those that don't want it? I'd like to remain optimistic that people can change, but it's becoming increasingly unlikely. Hey ho...<br><br>And always happy to point out those doing great stuff, and you guys at Mullen are regulars in any of these mentions - nice job, sir! It's definitely getting to the stage that you just don't want to “help” anymore, Ed. Like you say (and others here, including @CTK1), should we still be trying to help those that don't want it? I'd like to remain optimistic that people can change, but it's becoming increasingly unlikely. Hey ho…

And always happy to point out those doing great stuff, and you guys at Mullen are regulars in any of these mentions – nice job, sir!

]]> By: edwardboches http://dannybrown.me/2009/10/13/shit-is-still-shit-no-matter-how-you-dress-it/#comment-9711 edwardboches Sun, 18 Oct 2009 19:18:33 +0000 http://dannybrown.me/?p=8494#comment-9711 Ooops, have to mention also that it's great to see you give props to two of my guys, David Mullen and Stuart Foster. Great to hear stuff like that. Ooops, have to mention also that it's great to see you give props to two of my guys, David Mullen and Stuart Foster. Great to hear stuff like that.

]]> By: edwardboches http://dannybrown.me/2009/10/13/shit-is-still-shit-no-matter-how-you-dress-it/#comment-9710 edwardboches Sun, 18 Oct 2009 19:17:48 +0000 http://dannybrown.me/?p=8494#comment-9710 Astonishing to me that this is still a conversation. If there really are PR people who still don't get it they should either take down the shingle or just roll up and die. WTF? It can't be any more obvious that conversation, engagement, authenticity, access, honesty define the process. It ain't that hard. Then again, I just heard of a pitch where the social agencies all presented metrics and none of the traditional agencies offered any measurement at all. There seems to be a post a week about this subject. All true but if those who need aren't changing, why even bother talking to them. Save your breath and effort for more important stuff. Always a pleasure to stop by here. Astonishing to me that this is still a conversation. If there really are PR people who still don't get it they should either take down the shingle or just roll up and die. WTF? It can't be any more obvious that conversation, engagement, authenticity, access, honesty define the process. It ain't that hard. Then again, I just heard of a pitch where the social agencies all presented metrics and none of the traditional agencies offered any measurement at all. There seems to be a post a week about this subject. All true but if those who need aren't changing, why even bother talking to them. Save your breath and effort for more important stuff. Always a pleasure to stop by here.

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