Why Sony Canada Should Fear Ryan Meray




Misleading Customer Service Kills Your BusinessSometimes, as much as you’re a fan of a brand, they’re so far off the ball that they’re not doing themselves any favours. Sony Canada seems one such company.

I bought a Sony VAIO laptop for my wife’s birthday on December 8. A little after that, the network connection for wireless Internet went down. I thought it might be something to do with the router, so I checked that out.

After all, a company like Sony wouldn’t have products that died within a couple of weeks, would they?

But my media centre works fine wirelessly, as does my Nintendo Wii and Xbox 360. So, not the router.

Then I remembered we had a power surge a couple of weeks back, and thought that might have something to do with it. So, I thought I’d jump online and chat with a Sony Canada tech support representative. Unfortunately, Sony Canada had other ideas.

Instead of allowing its customers to chat live with an online customer service or tech support agent (like most other large tech businesses today), Sony Canada has the option of either email support or telephone support. So, I’m screwed unless I want to hang on a “You’re call is important to us” line for whatever amount of time.

Except I’m not.

Step in Ryan Meray. He’d seen me tweet about my issues, DM’d me and asked if I needed help, and to send my Gmail Chat details. Even though it’s a Saturday night. Even though he has plans himself.

Ryan must have spent a good 40 minutes with me, going through every single possibility as to what the issue could be. He was patient; knowledgeable; helpful and really wanted to resolve the issue.

All the things Sony Canada should want to be, in fact. Except they’re not.

Instead, they make customers go through the rigmarole of phone trees, or emails that may or may not be answered within a specific time-frame. They have a crappy FAQ system on their website that simply tells you what you already know. And they don’t have even basic online live support.

This is a multi-billion dollar corporation. This is a company that prides itself on innovation. This is a company that aggressively looks for ways to stay ahead of its competitors. Sadly, they seem to have forgotten about one of the key parts of any business – the customers. And as we leave behind a year that saw huge corporations fall because of a lack of customer trust and satisfaction, it’s a dangerous game to play.

No company is too big to fail. No company can afford to short change its customers. Otherwise, people like Ryan Meray will step in and take your customers’ business away from you by offering the service you should have (because I sure as heck know what tech company will be on my mind in the future).

You’re treating your customers right. Right?

  • Update Sunday January 3 – I received an email from Candice Hayman of Sony Canada’s PR team, asking what the issue was. She then came back and advised that the VP of Service has said that Sony Canada is planning to implement email chat for VAIO. Additionally, there is online chat if you go here. However, this is for Sony U.S. and is for product information problems only. Which still leaves me in the lurch.

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Hey there all,

Well guess what???? I had the WORST experience with Sony TODAY! First of all new laptop 1500$ wouldn't update or work, tried online support...their answer was to restore the whole pc! Im not slow I know pc's its what I do the Bluray bay wouldnt open the screen was not working properly, Bluetooth wouldn't connect to anything and it wouldn't update no matter what I tried and it kept shutting itself off after 3 minutes of run time.

Well guess what??? Being a single mom who just lost her husband (fiance) to cancer last year before my daughter was born and myself being a cervical cancer survivor who was never supposed to have children (big shock when we found out I know) HAVE NEVER FOUGHT THIS HARD!!!

I got a call last week from Mark Scebeirras (or something to that effect) saying they figured out what was wrong they were going to wipe the hardrive and reinstall and it would fix the issue. I said fine I just cant afford to fail my online course and I would like it back in better working condition than what I got it please.

Then I got a call on Friday from Wayne asking me for my shipping and contact info that he was shipping it out!

Well HOLY CR$P today I got it in an old tattered box I had a sinking feeling so the Purolator girl and 3 people who were friends of friends of friends stopped by (Knights of Columbus thingy) and watched as I opened my package and CRIED!!!

The box had one tiny sheet of bubble wrap the Black Sony box was torn not closed properly and looked like it had been dragged behind a bus! I opened it and thats when the flood gates went............my anal retntive nature of keeping everything pristine was gone, on my laptop was a scratch the size of THREE LOONIE LENGTHS the battery was left in (heavier) so I picked it up and it looked like someone had swiped it over and over on some hard dirtry surface the rubber feet were grey with dirt and 23 HUGE scratches on the bottom.

Now I took pics before I sent it out and it was pristine it only ever sat on a rubber laptop pedastle and had this static cling film (like you attach to windows)on the cover I BABY my electronics!!! I am a girlie nerd and take care of my things and I took pics as I packed it up and wiped it clean just in case I got blamed or my daughter who might miraculously at 10 months has learned to walk and type on my laptop!

I called Sony and spoke to Nathan at Customer Care at Head Office who told me to send the pics so I did. Now 5:30pm ish I get a call from Mark who basically ripped me a new one and after I explained everything to him and the people who were here and blah blah, he basically said "common now Melanie I was there the whole time and was there when they packed it up, I had my best tech guy working on it".

Ok so then why did the guy who packed it need to call me for my info and WHY did I unpack it further an hour ago and find a dirty take out napkin and some kind of LIQUID squirted on my screen??? Is this how Sony Canada treats all their pc's and laptops that come in for repair or issues under warranty???

Did I mention this laptop is less than a month old and the guy who sold me the laptop via the phone told me if I wasn't happy with it or there was issues I could send it back????? Well guess what apparently this order was what Sony Canada calls a CTO order and I'm stuck! I am insulted and disgusted by the behaviour and treatment I have received thus far and the only nice person I have dealt with was Nathan today after I cried so hard I couldn't speak! Poor guy I felt bad aftwards but I had my last straw break under my feet today when I received my laptop as I did.

I will let you know what happens and in the meantime I hope that Candice woman READS THIS!!!!

Frustrated and livid in Ontario!!!! :(

I feel your pain. I've experienced similar frustrations with other companies. I also hate when tech support is outsourced and the person on the other line speaks with an unintelligible accent or has little knowledge of the product is is obviously using a prompter to troubleshoot your equipment.
.-= Nicholas Cardot´s most recent blog post ...Site Sketch 101 Search Engine Goals for 2010 =-.

Hi Danny- it's kind of ironic that Sony is a client of Awareness- they do a great job of creating and delivering state of the art community services for Sony- as you discovered it is mostly for brand advocacy ie. sales support.

One of the biggest opportunties for companies in social media is to create (and use) a "voice of the customer model" that knocks down the interdepartmental silos of customer resources. This basically means get the right info to the customer without the delays, finger pointing, disconnected systems and communications..

I am sure what you experienced is not unique- in fact many companies count on the peer support forums to alleviate inbound calls for support. I am sure there are several opportunities to embrace this while still making support options to customers directly.

Best of luck with the Vaio- it's a nice rig!

Craig
.-= Craig´s most recent blog post ...Welcome to SMW for 2010 =-.

I'm not sure that a lack of online chat support constitutes bad customer service in the eyes of Sony Canada customers, as I don't really know their customer base and their preferences well. For me personally, I love online chat support - I use Comcast's online chat all the time, which I guess is sad since if your product is good, people shouldn't need support weekly. :)

To me, it's a matter of what channels of communication are standard. By now, phone is obviously standard. Your company HAS to have phone support, especially if you're the size of Sony (unless of course you have a niche audience like 37signals). I'd also say that these days email is a standard channel of communication (and support).

Online chat I'm not sure about yet. Your average cubicle worker is 100% familiar with phone and email, but maybe not online chat yet.

I guess I see where you're coming from Danny (as I LOVE online chat support on sites), but I'm not sure that everybody else is like us, and therefore I'm not sure Sony Canada was in the wrong in this specific situation.
.-= Tim Jahn´s most recent blog post ...Flashpoint Academy =-.

Hey there Tim,

Valid points, mate, and ones that Candice from Sony Canada also mentioned, actually.

I guess I just like the ease of use that online chat offers (especially with companies on Skype with share screen). It just seems to feel more natural.

Perhaps I was more surprised that Sony didn't at least offer the option? It's advertised on their support section, although it's for product info and not repairs/tech issues.

It's also not the most intuitive menu around - I guess I was a little crabbier than normal due to that as well. ;-)

Cheers for offering your views, fella, always appreciated.

"It’s advertised on their support section, although it’s for product info and not repairs/tech issues."

See, THAT seems backwards to me, that they're using chat for sales and not support. In my eyes, online chat is great for technical support and troubleshooting, but not good for sales. You need personality and human touch for sales, most of which gets lost in the medium of online chat. You just need logic and details for troubleshooting and support, which online chat delivers well.
.-= Tim Jahn´s most recent blog post ...Flashpoint Academy =-.

I don't mean to generalize but how often do we get good quality service from Canadian subsidiaries of foreign companies? How much impact are they having, and value are they delivering to Canadian customers?

Are they innovative and dialed into the Canadian market or relying on the parent company to do all the work?

Perhaps someone from Sony Canada will reply to this post?
.-= Chris Herbert´s most recent blog post ...Hardest hockey shot ever! =-.

I couldn't agree more. Sony has horrible customer service. They do not care about their customers!

Curt 5 pts

I have to say I have felt the pain of Sony Canada and their ridiculous support as well. In fact today I called up and was told that for $130 they would answer my question about a mic on a laptop that won't turn off!. This echos years of pain I have had dealing with Sony. They have no interest in support, they do their best to discourage you. Try talking to a supervisor...they will not!

Anyways I've had it with this terrible company and the lack of concern and support, they have taken advantage of us too long. Instead of recommending their products ( I am a computer tech) I am emailing all the clients I ever turned on the Sony products and I am apologizing for doing so.

The corporate culture they breed over there is sickening.

Hey there all,

Well guess what???? I had the WORST experience with Sony TODAY! First of all new laptop 1500$ wouldn't update or work, tried online support...their answer was to restore the whole pc! Im not slow I know pc's its what I do the Bluray bay wouldnt open the screen was not working properly, Bluetooth wouldn't connect to anything and it wouldn't update no matter what I tried and it kept shutting itself off after 3 minutes of run time.

Well guess what??? Being a single mom who just lost her husband (fiance) to cancer last year before my daughter was born and myself being a cervical cancer survivor who was never supposed to have children (big shock when we found out I know) HAVE NEVER FOUGHT THIS HARD!!!

I got a call last week from Mark Scebeirras (or something to that effect) saying they figured out what was wrong they were going to wipe the hardrive and reinstall and it would fix the issue. I said fine I just cant afford to fail my online course and I would like it back in better working condition than what I got it please.

Then I got a call on Friday from Wayne asking me for my shipping and contact info that he was shipping it out!

Well HOLY CR$P today I got it in an old tattered box I had a sinking feeling so the Purolator girl and 3 people who were friends of friends of friends stopped by (Knights of Columbus thingy) and watched as I opened my package and CRIED!!!

The box had one tiny sheet of bubble wrap the Black Sony box was torn not closed properly and looked like it had been dragged behind a bus! I opened it and thats when the flood gates went............my anal retntive nature of keeping everything pristine was gone, on my laptop was a scratch the size of THREE LOONIE LENGTHS the battery was left in (heavier) so I picked it up and it looked like someone had swiped it over and over on some hard dirtry surface the rubber feet were grey with dirt and 23 HUGE scratches on the bottom.

Now I took pics before I sent it out and it was pristine it only ever sat on a rubber laptop pedastle and had this static cling film (like you attach to windows)on the cover I BABY my electronics!!! I am a girlie nerd and take care of my things and I took pics as I packed it up and wiped it clean just in case I got blamed or my daughter who might miraculously at 10 months has learned to walk and type on my laptop!

I called Sony and spoke to Nathan at Customer Care at Head Office who told me to send the pics so I did. Now 5:30pm ish I get a call from Mark who basically ripped me a new one and after I explained everything to him and the people who were here and blah blah, he basically said "common now Melanie I was there the whole time and was there when they packed it up, I had my best tech guy working on it".

Ok so then why did the guy who packed it need to call me for my info and WHY did I unpack it further an hour ago and find a dirty take out napkin and some kind of LIQUID squirted on my screen??? Is this how Sony Canada treats all their pc's and laptops that come in for repair or issues under warranty???

Did I mention this laptop is less than a month old and the guy who sold me the laptop via the phone told me if I wasn't happy with it or there was issues I could send it back????? Well guess what apparently this order was what Sony Canada calls a CTO order and I'm stuck! I am insulted and disgusted by the behaviour and treatment I have received thus far and the only nice person I have dealt with was Nathan today after I cried so hard I couldn't speak! Poor guy I felt bad aftwards but I had my last straw break under my feet today when I received my laptop as I did.

I will let you know what happens and in the meantime I hope that Candice woman READS THIS!!!!

Frustrated and livid in Ontario!!!! :(

I feel your pain. I've experienced similar frustrations with other companies. I also hate when tech support is outsourced and the person on the other line speaks with an unintelligible accent or has little knowledge of the product is is obviously using a prompter to troubleshoot your equipment.
.-= Nicholas Cardotu00c2u00b4s most recent blog post ...Site Sketch 101 Search Engine Goals for 2010 =-.

The day when automated scripts are banished can't come soon enough, Nicholas. You can really tell when someone is flustering because they've been asked a question that - gasp - isn't in the script...

Hi Danny- it's kind of ironic that Sony is a client of Awareness- they do a great job of creating and delivering state of the art community services for Sony- as you discovered it is mostly for brand advocacy ie. sales support.

One of the biggest opportunties for companies in social media is to create (and use) a "voice of the customer model" that knocks down the interdepartmental silos of customer resources. This basically means get the right info to the customer without the delays, finger pointing, disconnected systems and communications..

I am sure what you experienced is not unique- in fact many companies count on the peer support forums to alleviate inbound calls for support. I am sure there are several opportunities to embrace this while still making support options to customers directly.

Best of luck with the Vaio- it's a nice rig!

Craig
.-= Craigu00c2u00b4s most recent blog post ...Welcome to SMW for 2010 =-.

I'm finding that's the problem with a lot of brands, mate - they're going for advocates in the completely wrong way. As Tim mentions, why offer live (impersonal) chat in the human process of sales?

Yes, you can get human with tech support, but generally you just want a clean, quick fix to your issue and move on. Sales, on the other hand, is you either buying into that person or not - which seems less set up for a tech support issue.

Opportunities indeed...

I'm not sure that a lack of online chat support constitutes bad customer service in the eyes of Sony Canada customers, as I don't really know their customer base and their preferences well. For me personally, I love online chat support - I use Comcast's online chat all the time, which I guess is sad since if your product is good, people shouldn't need support weekly. :)

To me, it's a matter of what channels of communication are standard. By now, phone is obviously standard. Your company HAS to have phone support, especially if you're the size of Sony (unless of course you have a niche audience like 37signals). I'd also say that these days email is a standard channel of communication (and support).

Online chat I'm not sure about yet. Your average cubicle worker is 100% familiar with phone and email, but maybe not online chat yet.

I guess I see where you're coming from Danny (as I LOVE online chat support on sites), but I'm not sure that everybody else is like us, and therefore I'm not sure Sony Canada was in the wrong in this specific situation.
.-= Tim Jahnu00c2u00b4s most recent blog post ...Flashpoint Academy =-.

Hey there Tim,

Valid points, mate, and ones that Candice from Sony Canada also mentioned, actually.

I guess I just like the ease of use that online chat offers (especially with companies on Skype with share screen). It just seems to feel more natural.

Perhaps I was more surprised that Sony didn't at least offer the option? It's advertised on their support section, although it's for product info and not repairs/tech issues.

It's also not the most intuitive menu around - I guess I was a little crabbier than normal due to that as well. ;-)

Cheers for offering your views, fella, always appreciated.

"Itu00e2u0080u0099s advertised on their support section, although itu00e2u0080u0099s for product info and not repairs/tech issues."

See, THAT seems backwards to me, that they're using chat for sales and not support. In my eyes, online chat is great for technical support and troubleshooting, but not good for sales. You need personality and human touch for sales, most of which gets lost in the medium of online chat. You just need logic and details for troubleshooting and support, which online chat delivers well.
.-= Tim Jahnu00c2u00b4s most recent blog post ...Flashpoint Academy =-.

I don't mean to generalize but how often do we get good quality service from Canadian subsidiaries of foreign companies? How much impact are they having, and value are they delivering to Canadian customers?

Are they innovative and dialed into the Canadian market or relying on the parent company to do all the work?

Perhaps someone from Sony Canada will reply to this post?
.-= Chris Herbertu00c2u00b4s most recent blog post ...Hardest hockey shot ever! =-.

I did actually get an email from Candice Hayman at Sony Canada this morning, asking what the issue was (she was unable to view the post).

It was nice to see someone's listening - yet the issue still remains that there is no option for live online chat support. Candice mentioned that the majority of Sony Canada customers prefer the methods currently in place. Must just be us that like online live support... ;-)

And it does seem that many subsidiaries of international parent companies aren't offering the service that could be offered, for sure.

I can confidently say that this the best blog post I've read this year. ;D

Cheers Danny! Hopefully the issue doesn't re-occur, if it does, with any luck it'll happen on Sony's watch. hehe

Cheers to you, fella - very much appreciated!

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