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	<description>The Human Side of Media and the Social Side of Marketing</description>
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		<title>By: Danny</title>
		<link>http://dannybrown.me/2010/01/12/social-media-and-holistic-cultures/#comment-18753</link>
		<dc:creator>Danny</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 Jan 2010 15:40:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>But doesn&#039;t ownership come from how it&#039;s being used, Frank? A great sales strategy will see the sales team &quot;own&quot; social; a great viral campaign may see marketing &quot;own&quot; social; a great cause may see non-profits &quot;own&quot; social. 

Social definitely allows the customer a wider reach; but great companies will be looking after the customers anyway, long before social media made a bigger impact.

Thanks for continuing the conversation, appreciate it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>But doesn&#8217;t ownership come from how it&#8217;s being used, Frank? A great sales strategy will see the sales team &#8220;own&#8221; social; a great viral campaign may see marketing &#8220;own&#8221; social; a great cause may see non-profits &#8220;own&#8221; social. </p>
<p>Social definitely allows the customer a wider reach; but great companies will be looking after the customers anyway, long before social media made a bigger impact.</p>
<p>Thanks for continuing the conversation, appreciate it.</p>
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		<title>By: ComcastCares (Frank Eliason)</title>
		<link>http://dannybrown.me/2010/01/12/social-media-and-holistic-cultures/#comment-18751</link>
		<dc:creator>ComcastCares (Frank Eliason)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 Jan 2010 04:03:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My next tweet continued the discussion.  Social media is another communications channel, but it is one that is owned by the Customer.  Ultimately the strategy is acknowledging this fact and being part of the conversation with the Customer, but remembering the Customer will be the one to guide and control that conversation.  The most successful businesses in social media have recognized this fact and are part of an overall conversation.
.-= ComcastCares (Frank Eliason)´s most recent blog post  ...&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.eliasonfamily.info/blog/?p=978&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Customer Service as the New Marketing?&lt;/a&gt; =-.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My next tweet continued the discussion.  Social media is another communications channel, but it is one that is owned by the Customer.  Ultimately the strategy is acknowledging this fact and being part of the conversation with the Customer, but remembering the Customer will be the one to guide and control that conversation.  The most successful businesses in social media have recognized this fact and are part of an overall conversation.<br />
.-= ComcastCares (Frank Eliason)´s most recent blog post  &#8230;<a href="http://www.eliasonfamily.info/blog/?p=978" rel="nofollow">Customer Service as the New Marketing?</a> =-.</p>
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		<title>By: Danny</title>
		<link>http://dannybrown.me/2010/01/12/social-media-and-holistic-cultures/#comment-18717</link>
		<dc:creator>Danny</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Jan 2010 14:49:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You&#039;ve never used &quot;vociferous&quot; yet? I&#039;m impressed, mate! ;-)

Agreed, I think Frank was speaking from a certain perspective; he&#039;s done amazing things for Comcast&#039;s reputation and so it makes sense to come from the customer angle.

It&#039;s definitely one of the things that many companies aren&#039;t understanding well (or they are, and it&#039;s scaring them). Yet the alternative is simple - evolve or die. Or at the very least, become less relevant as your competitors evolve.

Cheers for dropping by Dave (and subscribing too - double bonus!) :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You&#8217;ve never used &#8220;vociferous&#8221; yet? I&#8217;m impressed, mate! <img src='http://dannybrown.me/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Agreed, I think Frank was speaking from a certain perspective; he&#8217;s done amazing things for Comcast&#8217;s reputation and so it makes sense to come from the customer angle.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s definitely one of the things that many companies aren&#8217;t understanding well (or they are, and it&#8217;s scaring them). Yet the alternative is simple &#8211; evolve or die. Or at the very least, become less relevant as your competitors evolve.</p>
<p>Cheers for dropping by Dave (and subscribing too &#8211; double bonus!) <img src='http://dannybrown.me/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Danny</title>
		<link>http://dannybrown.me/2010/01/12/social-media-and-holistic-cultures/#comment-18716</link>
		<dc:creator>Danny</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Jan 2010 14:46:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sometimes it&#039;s a little A, others it&#039;s a little B. Some other times it&#039;s a mix of both.

It&#039;s a UK thing (maybe even a Scottish thing) for nub. :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sometimes it&#8217;s a little A, others it&#8217;s a little B. Some other times it&#8217;s a mix of both.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s a UK thing (maybe even a Scottish thing) for nub. <img src='http://dannybrown.me/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Danny</title>
		<link>http://dannybrown.me/2010/01/12/social-media-and-holistic-cultures/#comment-18715</link>
		<dc:creator>Danny</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Jan 2010 14:45:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You&#039;re right, Andrew. Social media allows a single voice to reach many - so why stop at the sales message, or the customer service message, or the marketing message? Why stop at the message being external? Why not use it internally and reach many departments and teams at the same time, to offer the most kick-ass solution around for everyone - business and consumer. Or is that too simple to work? ;-)

Thanks for starting the conversation, fella.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You&#8217;re right, Andrew. Social media allows a single voice to reach many &#8211; so why stop at the sales message, or the customer service message, or the marketing message? Why stop at the message being external? Why not use it internally and reach many departments and teams at the same time, to offer the most kick-ass solution around for everyone &#8211; business and consumer. Or is that too simple to work? <img src='http://dannybrown.me/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Thanks for starting the conversation, fella.</p>
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		<title>By: Danny</title>
		<link>http://dannybrown.me/2010/01/12/social-media-and-holistic-cultures/#comment-18714</link>
		<dc:creator>Danny</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Jan 2010 14:42:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Solid point, Mike - it&#039;s not always about the business/customer interaction, but the overall loyalty build as well. Putting your customers in touch with others that can offer help or advice is never a bad thing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Solid point, Mike &#8211; it&#8217;s not always about the business/customer interaction, but the overall loyalty build as well. Putting your customers in touch with others that can offer help or advice is never a bad thing.</p>
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		<title>By: Danny</title>
		<link>http://dannybrown.me/2010/01/12/social-media-and-holistic-cultures/#comment-18713</link>
		<dc:creator>Danny</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Jan 2010 14:40:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey there Michael, 

I actually agree with you, fella :)

It&#039;s perhaps my fault for not making it clearer in the post. Customers are definitely a huge part of the &quot;pie&quot;, yet at the same time we shouldn&#039;t get &quot;sucked in&quot; (for want of a better word) to many mindsets that they&#039;re the most important.

They definitely affect a company&#039;s success, and they can make or break campaigns (check the Nissan Cube social media gambit for an example). Yet poor strategic planning, lack of QA, shoddy creative briefs, weak management and leadership - they have as much an impact on success as customers. After all, these are the types of bad examples that offer customers the reason to take to the space in the way they have.

Get the food right and the diners may have less to complain about. ;-)

Cheers for your thoughts, mate, always a pleasure.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey there Michael, </p>
<p>I actually agree with you, fella <img src='http://dannybrown.me/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>It&#8217;s perhaps my fault for not making it clearer in the post. Customers are definitely a huge part of the &#8220;pie&#8221;, yet at the same time we shouldn&#8217;t get &#8220;sucked in&#8221; (for want of a better word) to many mindsets that they&#8217;re the most important.</p>
<p>They definitely affect a company&#8217;s success, and they can make or break campaigns (check the Nissan Cube social media gambit for an example). Yet poor strategic planning, lack of QA, shoddy creative briefs, weak management and leadership &#8211; they have as much an impact on success as customers. After all, these are the types of bad examples that offer customers the reason to take to the space in the way they have.</p>
<p>Get the food right and the diners may have less to complain about. <img src='http://dannybrown.me/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Cheers for your thoughts, mate, always a pleasure.</p>
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		<title>By: Dave Fleet</title>
		<link>http://dannybrown.me/2010/01/12/social-media-and-holistic-cultures/#comment-18711</link>
		<dc:creator>Dave Fleet</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Jan 2010 01:26:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ll leave the rubbing to Ari; I&#039;m just impressed you managed to get the word &quot;vociferous&quot; into a post.

Oh, and yes, a more holistic view is important. In fact, I think it&#039;s &lt;em&gt;essential&lt;/em&gt;. I don&#039;t believe for a second that Frank really thinks that it&#039;s only about the customer, though - that&#039;s just a catchy soundbite.

With that said, the reality is that social media really has given customers the potential to have a louder voice than ever (well, since the advent of mass media, anyway) and that really is a crucial point for companies operating in this space.
.-= Dave Fleet´s most recent blog post  ...&lt;a href=&quot;http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/dfPR/~3/cpRTrIsAf8I/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Avoiding Social Media’s Own “Ad Equivalency Value”&lt;/a&gt; =-.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ll leave the rubbing to Ari; I&#8217;m just impressed you managed to get the word &#8220;vociferous&#8221; into a post.</p>
<p>Oh, and yes, a more holistic view is important. In fact, I think it&#8217;s <em>essential</em>. I don&#8217;t believe for a second that Frank really thinks that it&#8217;s only about the customer, though &#8211; that&#8217;s just a catchy soundbite.</p>
<p>With that said, the reality is that social media really has given customers the potential to have a louder voice than ever (well, since the advent of mass media, anyway) and that really is a crucial point for companies operating in this space.<br />
.-= Dave Fleet´s most recent blog post  &#8230;<a href="http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/dfPR/~3/cpRTrIsAf8I/" rel="nofollow">Avoiding Social Media’s Own “Ad Equivalency Value”</a> =-.</p>
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		<title>By: Ari Herzog</title>
		<link>http://dannybrown.me/2010/01/12/social-media-and-holistic-cultures/#comment-18709</link>
		<dc:creator>Ari Herzog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Jan 2010 18:07:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s intriguing you focus on the social aspect of social media, and not the media aspect. You devote an entire aspect to the word social, yet you write about social media.

It&#039;s also intriguing you write &quot;there&#039;s the nub&quot; when I think you mean &quot;there&#039;s the rub.&quot; ;)
.-= Ari Herzog´s most recent blog post  ...&lt;a href=&quot;http://ariwriter.com/reflecting-on-my-twitter-sabbatical-1-week-in/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Reflecting on My Twitter Sabbatical, 1 Week In&lt;/a&gt; =-.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s intriguing you focus on the social aspect of social media, and not the media aspect. You devote an entire aspect to the word social, yet you write about social media.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s also intriguing you write &#8220;there&#8217;s the nub&#8221; when I think you mean &#8220;there&#8217;s the rub.&#8221; <img src='http://dannybrown.me/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /><br />
.-= Ari Herzog´s most recent blog post  &#8230;<a href="http://ariwriter.com/reflecting-on-my-twitter-sabbatical-1-week-in/" rel="nofollow">Reflecting on My Twitter Sabbatical, 1 Week In</a> =-.</p>
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		<title>By: Andrew Mueller</title>
		<link>http://dannybrown.me/2010/01/12/social-media-and-holistic-cultures/#comment-18708</link>
		<dc:creator>Andrew Mueller</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Jan 2010 07:51:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Danny,

Thanks for making the point that social media is not only about the customer&#039;s perspective.  While it is very true that the customer now has more imput and influence over the customer/company relationship, due to the speed and ease that information flows across social media channels, it is still only one part of the relationship.  In my opinion, it is about a meeting of the minds between customer and company values. And this doesn&#039;t even take into account the value that social media can bring other relationship and ecosystem stakeholders such as vendors, partners, affiliates, distribution channels, and developers.

My conversation with Frank came after a his tweet that social media starts with listening. While listening may be the first &quot;active step&quot; a corporation takes, I think the process should start with identifying company values and objectives in the face of the &quot;new normal&quot;. Or at least re-evaluating your existing values in respect to recent changes in the business world brought about by social media.
.-= Andrew Mueller´s most recent blog post  ...&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.muellerandrew.com/2009/12/a-case-for-small-business-social-media/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Social Media and SEO – Have you got them working together?&lt;/a&gt; =-.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Danny,</p>
<p>Thanks for making the point that social media is not only about the customer&#8217;s perspective.  While it is very true that the customer now has more imput and influence over the customer/company relationship, due to the speed and ease that information flows across social media channels, it is still only one part of the relationship.  In my opinion, it is about a meeting of the minds between customer and company values. And this doesn&#8217;t even take into account the value that social media can bring other relationship and ecosystem stakeholders such as vendors, partners, affiliates, distribution channels, and developers.</p>
<p>My conversation with Frank came after a his tweet that social media starts with listening. While listening may be the first &#8220;active step&#8221; a corporation takes, I think the process should start with identifying company values and objectives in the face of the &#8220;new normal&#8221;. Or at least re-evaluating your existing values in respect to recent changes in the business world brought about by social media.<br />
.-= Andrew Mueller´s most recent blog post  &#8230;<a href="http://www.muellerandrew.com/2009/12/a-case-for-small-business-social-media/" rel="nofollow">Social Media and SEO – Have you got them working together?</a> =-.</p>
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