The Problem with Automated Urinals



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I have a problem with automated urinals.

Not in how I use them; I know how to pee in public (and I’m sorry if this post veers off into uncharted territory here – I’ll try keep it clean). No, I’m more frustrated with the way automated urinals use themselves.

For anyone not sure what an automated urinal is (my lady readers might not be aware of their delicacies, for instance), here’s the quick overview.

  • You go to a public toilet (or washroom, as they’re called here in North America).
  • You “do your business” at the urinal.
  • You have the choice of pressing a button or flipping a handle/switch to flush, or you leave it to the urinal’s automatic flush.
  • You go wash your hands and leave.

Simple, right? So you’d think. But there seems to be a new breed of automated urinals on the loose, and they’re the ones that are out to frustrate. Here’s why.

Jumping In Prematurely

The difference between a manual flush and an automated one is clear. With a manual flush, you know when you’re finished and ready to flush. Perfect – pee, put away, push button. Job done.

With the automated approach though, it can often begin the flush cycle before you’re done. Which is always fun to get some nice splashback from a still-in-use urinal (sorry, I did say I’d try and keep it clean!).

So, no matter if you’re ready for it or not, automation is kicking in and probably ruining your day. Not good.

One Size Fits All

While this isn’t really a problem just for automated urinals, it does come into play a little bit more when it is automated.

Basically, most urinals (at least the ones I’ve used) are all a standard size. Unless it’s open plan – then it just looks like a line-up not too dissimilar from pigs eating at a trough.

With the closed ones, though, they’re pretty much standardized as far as dimensions go. So, you can be tall, small, wide, thin, hunchbacked or any other numerous descriptions that separates us from each other. And this can be a pain at an automated urinal.

Say you get an extra-wide guy next to you – you have to try and accommodate by moving over a bit (trust me, you don’t want to share pee space!). Of course, the issue is, because you’ve moved over, you’re now in the line of fire of the urinal next to you. And if the automated system kicks in too early again… You get the point. Again, not good.

Being Unprepared for the Unexpected

It happens. You might go to the toilet, and you could be on the phone as you go in (either calling or texting/instant messaging). Generally, if I’m on a call, I’ll say I’ll call back before going in, so no problem there. But I have been texting occasionally before I need to use the urinal.

Of course, the problem here is that the automated urinal only sees what’s in front of it, and gauges that (by the amount of time I’ve been stood in front of it), I must be done. On with the flush cycle which, once more, can come with the lovely splashback syndrome if the urinal isn’t at optimal emptiness for a flush cycle.

Again, as before, not good.

Are You Taking the Piss?

Okay. So we’ve gone through three examples of why I hate automated urinals. And you’re maybe thinking, “What the hell is Danny telling us this for? This is meant to be a marketing blog with social media insights, no?”.

And you’re right.

So, switch out automated urinals for your business. Or your marketing. Or your sales pitch. Or your advertising. Or your branding. Or any other metric that makes or breaks a business. Look at the sub-headers, and ask yourself the following questions:

  • Jumping in Prematurely. Are you jumping into a new market prematurely? Are you expanding your services too prematurely? Is your quality control process premature in offering solutions, and actually causing more problems?
  • One Size Fits All. Are you offering a one size fits all solution when every customer needs a different one? Are you missing leads because you’re focusing on the same sales pitch for every customer? Are you herding your employees into the same “do as we say” mindset instead of encouraging creativity and leadership?
  • Being Unprepared for the Unexpected. Do you have a back-up if things go pear-shaped? Can you run your business if a key supplier went out of business? Are you putting all your leads into a single or limited client basket? Are you prepared for a crisis erupting around your brand?

I started this blog talking about automated urinals (and they do actually bug the heck out of me). But like I say, swap that out to a business view, and it still rings true. If you’re automating things when manual would be better, you’re probably being less useful than you think.

So – are you prepared or are you just flushing your success away?

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Ari Herzog 136 pts

You get the same problem with automated toilets and sinks, not just the urinals. No good answers, but there is relation.

DannyBrown 2707 pts

Ari Herzog My wife had an adventure with an automated toilet on a cross-country train trip. Yep, they're either too eager or not eager enough... ;-)

matthewduncan 6 pts

Danny - Great analogy and post. I too have thought about using a bathroom analogy for integration solutions/experiences around data. As you mention with the nuances of automated urinals I get even further bugged, and sometimes intrigued, when bathroom experiences are so varied. Sometimes you see old school manual faucets, towel dispensers, soap dispensers, and sometimes you see automated ones. Sometimes you see mixes and you wonder what happened. If only all the vendors would work in sync to automate the whole bathroom for the client. But in reality it comes to costs, different upgrade lifecycles, and just plain needs. As we know this leads to half solutions that in some perspectives are actually worse off than they were before because as you say at least you knew what you were getting and you had some level of control even at the expense of other benefits.

Going back to data integration I see this many times. When you would think the whole data flow environment would integrate for a complete solution (in the analogy truly preventing the spread of germs) but inevitably there is at least one piece (like having everything automated but then having a door pull at the end to open the chance of still getting germs even if you used all the automated tools prior) that ruins the overall benefits one can receive from an integrated solution/experience. In the bathroom it is quite clear that integration is not a focus. In business environment it is sometimes harder to see but the end results are the same.

DannyBrown 2707 pts

matthewduncan Hey there Matthew. Couldn't agree more on the whole sync approach (and gotta love that it sounds the same as "sink") :)

I get really annoyed when I see disparate teams mess things up by failing to work together effectively, despite being after the same result. It doesn't matter if it's internal teams or external agencies (or a mix of both); if you're not in line with each other no-one benefits.

barneyausten 13 pts

Hello Danny. That one brought a smile to my face first thing on a Monday morning. A very different - yet still relevant analogy.

As someone who will be selling my product online, the question of automation is very relevant. Trying to determine when to engage "in person" is a balancing act. Too much automation and you lose a connection, too little and the cost of operations becomes unjustifiable.

As a business, we love to engage directly with our clients and encourage them to connect to us. Automation allows us to control this to some extent as the day job has to get done, but we (hopefully) will get the right balance.

Thanks for sharing your thoughts.

Barney

DannyBrown 2707 pts

barneyausten Hey there Barney,

Always happy to make you smile, mate. :)

It's definitely a fine line to tread, and one that's constantly evolving. Get it right, though, and you know yourself how beneficial it can be.

Cheers for stopping by, sir!

JacStar 15 pts

haha you listed "put away" as one of your steps. you know what else grinds my gears? automatic hand dryers. they are fantastic (especially if dyson), but what if you're just wheeling a stroller underneath... your baby gets a loud blast of hot air in his face. and sometimes these public toilets just aren't designed for room to NOT push the baby under. there's no way around.

so, if baby is sleeping i am forced to hold it. want to spin this business-ethically? take a look at your clientele. if you don't consider every aspect you are likely to lose business

DannyBrown 2707 pts

JacStar Well if "it" wasn't put away, you'd be wandering about with your wares to the world... ;-)

You bring up a great point, actually, that I hadn't thought of. I guess the same could be said for folks in wheelchairs? Maybe the need to hover a hand above the dryer to stop the problem you mention?

JacStar 15 pts

DannyBrown JacStar or maybe if it didn't sound like an airplane taking off, i could deal with the heat

WomenNBizRadio 7 pts

This is what I love about you, you challenge me to think outside the norm and how it can lead us back to seeing a solution from an everyday issue.

I knew right away you would lead us back to marketing some how and like a good Who Done IT you satisfied me.

Where do you find these awesome pictures, dang gum it I want to find those.

DannyBrown 2707 pts

WomenNBizRadio Well thanks kindly, Michelle, and "dang gum it" is quite possibly my new favourite saying :)

DannyBrown 2707 pts

ginidietrich No. Frickin'. Way,

Is that a first? :)

CoreenT 9 pts

OMG Danny, you definitely had me intrigued with this one (and thinking about what we ladies go through with auto-flushers). In the spirit of things, I have another one to add to your marketing list: Standing at the trough: Are you standing around doing the same thing, hitting the same spots as the competition? Or are you breaking away to go find your own tree?

DannyBrown 2707 pts

CoreenT Great addition, Coreen, and so true. More of us need to find our own tree for sure.

chris 55 pts

As one who commonly suffers from "stage fright" at public urinals, I've done away with all these problems by simply waiting for a stall. Also I've noticed at public events that for some reason the line for urinals is often longer than the line for stalls - bonus!

DannyBrown 2707 pts

chris Now that, sir, is an idea I may just have to borrow :)

3HatsComm 803 pts

Danny, Am I the first without a Y chromosome to comment? You had me intrigued but I figured you'd bring it back to marketing and business. Heck I've done that with TV, movie review posts. That's the thing with blog writing, inspiration from anywhere.

There are times when automation works against you; you can't "set it and forget it" and hope it'll work the same for everyone, every situation. You sacrifice adaptability, flexibility and probably miss out on opportunities that way. The tools are great, but they're just that and they can't do the work for you. FWIW.

DannyBrown 2707 pts

3HatsComm I think you are, Davina - there's only Coreen that I can see above :)

That's definitely one of the biggest cons of automation - it takes away the fluidity of ad-hoc creativity. Take that away, and you're just one cog in a field of millions.

hackmanj 330 pts

Danny - this reminded me initially of the urinal etiquette video that was very popular a couple of years ago. Do you remember it?

Anyway, great way to increase your male readership, haha.

DannyBrown 2707 pts

hackmanj Is that the one where you should never choose the middle stall? Always go for the end one? If so, classic :)

JacStar 15 pts

hackmanj DannyBrown http://gamescene.com/The_Urinal_Game_game.html

DannyBrown 2707 pts

JacStar hackmanj Ha, that is an awesome game :)

hackmanj 330 pts

JacStar DannyBrown lol, great game. I got two wrong, what the heck.

JacStar 15 pts

hackmanj DannyBrown me too! but there is a trick question in there.... which is totally a scam

AskAaronLee 85 pts

Oh my! I was reading this blog post and I kept on thinking to myself why is Danny Brown telling me all this at 3:50am in Malaysia.

Gotta agree on your philosophy though. I agree most of "One Size fits all" I saw a great company the other day trying to "sell" me their service on twitter and when I checked them out on twitter they sent the same tweet to everyone (automated tweets based on keywords). Is that how they are doing business? They have a great website but they are turning me off. Instead I replied them, and ask them to tell me what their business is in 140 characters. They replied, I checked them out but I didn't buy anything though.

Great post as always. Its funny to think your read about urinals and how its going in your thoughts.

Cheers!

Aaron

AskAaronLee 85 pts

Oops... error .. I meant "Its funny to read about urinals and how its going in your thoughts."

DannyBrown 2707 pts

AskAaronLee What always makes me laugh, Aaron, is that folks like that always seem to assume that we won't look more into them, and just sign up blindly instead.

Thankfully most don't, but I guess there will always be some that sign up anyway since they believe the shiny text and images. Here's to them not being ripped off too much.

BlogTechGuy 15 pts

This is why I don't wear flip flops out in public. Automation can save time and in a lot of cases be a perfect solution, but it is a great idea to think about whether it's worth it in some situations and whether the time taken to do it manually will produce much better results.

DannyBrown 2707 pts

BlogTechGuy "This is why I don't wear flip-flops in public" - genius, mate, pure genius. :)

joey_strawn 362 pts

And this, my dear Mr. Brown, is why you're one of the best. Not only did you make me think of automated urinals and their annoyances, I get a business lesson out of it as well. I find I have the same annoyance with automated toilets as well (but that's a grosser discussion).

Are you of the mindset that all automation is bad? (I lean on that side of the fence myself, FYI). The problem I see with most automated efforts online, outside of the ones you've brilliantly discussed here, is the simple stepping away from the idea of a "social" social media. With everything being automated, we are getting away from the initial draw to these platforms: honest, open, human conversations.

Thanks for the great insights. Next I hope to see a blog on automated hand dryers vs. paper towels. Go.

DannyBrown 2707 pts

joey_strawn Well thanks kindly, sir :)

I don't see *all* automation as being bad - it depends on its use (which, in turn, tells me about the user).

I can see automated tweets working to share blog posts or promos at different timezones, for example. I'm in Canada. The UK is 5 hours ahead of me, while I think Australia is around 14 hours. So if I want a message to reach those guys while I'm sleeping, automation comes in handy then.

Of course, if it's just pumping tweet after tweet (or news feed, etc), then it'd get grating fast.

So I think automation can definitely work, as long as there's a human behind it to de-automate when necessary.

joey_strawn 362 pts

DannyBrown joey_strawn I'm of a similar position. I think all social interaction needs to have a human behind it. Glad to see we are of similar mindsets.

Also, I laughed for about 5 minutes at the picture you chose to accompany this post. Quite brilliant.

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