Why I’m Hesitant About Triberr

Triberr - The Reach Multiplier

This is a guest post by Neicole Crepeau.

Triberr is taking the blogging world by storm. And my hat is off to its creators, Dino Dogan and Daniel Cristo for trying to help smaller bloggers like myself get exposure.

I can definitely understand the appeal of Triberr, Twitterfeed, and other RSS auto-post systems. I find myself hesitant to use them, though. As a content curator, they don’t meet my needs–and I’m worried they’re just adding to the noise.

Triberr, Twitterfeed, and Similar Tools

Triberr offers a quid-pro-quo arrangement with other bloggers. You become part of up to four tribes. They tweet your blog posts (the timing handled by Triberr), and you tweet their’s. By default, this just happens automatically without you having to think about it.

(Note that Triberr recently did add a feature that allows you to change your settings so that you can choose which content to tweet. It was built for and optimized for auto-tweeting, though, and that’s the scenario I’m discussing.)

Triberr makes the quid-pro-quo arrangement explicit–and fun. These kinds of arrangements have been taking place informally for a long time.  Most of us active in content creation also share other people’s content on a regular basis, and we naturally end up with a specific set of bloggers or sources whose content we tend to read and share.

Reaching a Larger Audience

Of course, we all want our content to reach a larger audience. It’s one of the key reasons we participate in social media. It’s one of the reasons that we share other bloggers’ content.

Triberr touts the increased reach that bloggers get by joining tribes. Its tagline is “The Reach Multiplier!”. So, ultimately, like an advertising network, it’s about getting views and clicks. I have no doubt that using Triberr, or any quid-pro-quo system, will get my links in front of more people. The problem is two-fold:

  • Are my links getting in front of the right audience?
  • Am I short-changing my audience to do it?

Content Curation versus Content Inundation

As I said, I consider myself a content curator. I am selective about the posts that I share.  I take pride in reading each one before sharing it.  I share content that I think my particular audience, or the audience I’m trying to build, will find of value. I know they are flooded with content. I like to think they trust that what I share is going to be worth clicking on.

There are bloggers whose content I routinely share. Even with those bloggers, though, I don’t share every post. Even for the blogs I helped start (SMB Collective) or am a regular contributor to (Mark Schaefer’s Grow blog), I don’t share every post. I share those that are relevant to my audience and of high quality.

If a person auto-tweets every post from my blog, then they aren’t being selective. They aren’t choosing the posts relevant to their audience. I bet they don’t have a quality bar, either. Yes, I want my content to be shared. But what I really want is for my content to be shared by someone whose judgement his or her followers trust, and whose audience is the target audience I’m trying to reach.

We are inundated with information, links, content. The problem is just getting worse. When people auto-share every post from everyone in their network, they just add to the problem, inundating people with more links.

The Value of the Curator

That’s why I personally think that true curators are going to become more valuable. As we try to filter out all the junk and focus our time on consuming really good content, we will rely on selected tools and selected individuals.

Some websites and applications are trying to help surface the best content to those who are seeking it. There will be a role for these tools: Flipboard, Zite, Alltop, and the like. They will be locations for people to go to when they are in the consumption mode, actively looking for information on a topic or ready to sit down and do their daily reading.

More and more, though, people get their content primarily in small snippets, through friends and their online networks. They receive it in small chunks: a post on Facebook, or LinkedIn, or Twitter. They click because a particular headline grabs them.

There is evidence to suggest that we are becoming more selective about the pages we Like. Similarly, as content marketing and the content volume grows, we’ll become more selective about the people we follow. As a blogger or curator trying to build an audience, it will become even more important to pick your niche and create and share quality content about your selected topic. People will choose to follow and to really pay attention to the content shared by curators who have proved themselves trustworthy.

For that reason, and just my own personal integrity, I’m not willing to auto-tweet. I don’t want to be part of the problem, and I want to maintain my own reputation–because I think having a reputation as a good content curator is going to become more and more valuable.

What about you? Can automated syndication work, or does manual curation seem the better approach?

Neicole CrepeauAbout the author: Neicole Crepeau is a speaker, blogger, columnist at {grow}, and co-founder of SMB Collective. She works at Coherent Interactive on social media, website design, mobile apps, & marketing. Connect with Neicole on Twitter at @neicolec.

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  1. says

    Neicole, I am with you.
    I liked the idea at first. Beyond the automated formatting (even with some selective pruning)is the tribes themselves.
    I suppose it defeats the purpose, but only having those you know (and are more likely to share anyway) means you are likely to have been sharing.
    Sure you might be “meeting” some you otherwise would not have, but the tradeoff of having to read to be sure (I’m with you on content curation) versus blindly sending out does not make sense.
    I’ve seen blogger’s I follow sharing the exact same stuff popping up in my feed. I get the duplication of multiple people that I guess I am de facto in their tribe anyway?
    I don’t have an issue with some automation for say your own posts or scheduling tweets etc, but this was too much

    • says

      Thanks, Todd. (Just waking up her on the West coast.) Nice to know I’m not alone. I actually haven’t see a lot of duplication in my own feed, which is nice. Maybe I’m following more people who are in diverse tribes. It is nice that smaller bloggers may be getting more exposure through Triberr. I really do like that aspect.

      • says

        You hit the nail right on the head, Neicole!

        From what I’ve seen, Triberr has delivered on their promise to bring more traffic to better, lesser-known sites. They’re not focusing on the Darren Rowses or Matt Cutts of the world. I see a real paradigm shift here because, quite frankly, we can’t rely on Google and other search engines to connect us to markets we may be missing, places where what we offer meets a REAL need.

        Perhaps to truly appreciate the urgency in having something like Triberr you have to recognize the need for a balance between push and pull marketing. Currently, Triberr does more of the above but I can see the latter becoming more prevalent once we see more of a focus on the intangibles that connect us all, context and relevance, if you will…

        I still argue that you can curate content AND still automate things (to a degree that fits your linking and/or audience). It doesn’t have to be a trade-off and should not impact your credibility, authenticity, or what-have-you. Any thoughts, folks? 8)

        • says

          I do agree with you. I think the Queue feature in Triberr lets you do that curation plus automation piece. And I also agree that we are seeing an evolution in the way that people find and connect with content.

  2. says

    Hey Neicole,
    It’s like I wrote a response to this post from the future: http://triberr.com/blog/curating-content-can-machines-do-better/

    In my post I make the argument that with machine learning, sites like Triberr could actually do a pretty good job at curating content, maybe even better than humans.

    Of course humans will always be better at judging quality, but if machines can match quality, they will win because they are faster and more efficient. For example, you may only look at 10 posts a day and decide to share the best 2 of them with your audience, while machines can look at 10,000 posts a day, and can decide to share the best 2 of them with your audience.

    If machines are capable of understanding “why” you shared the 2 that you shared, then in theory they would be the better curator, because they can scale easier.

    Thanks for the post, and thanks to Danny for hosting such talented folks on his blog. Seems like this week is, “Content Curation” week on the web.

    • says

      Thank you, Dan. I’ll read your post. You’re certainly not alone in believe that we can build product that will curate effectively. A number of companies (and their investors) are betting on it!

      I worked at Microsoft for over a decade, and was familiar with some of the research into natural language search and automated evaluation of content. From what I understand, we have a ways to go before machines will be effective enough to replace humans.

      As you point out, they can review a lot more posts that a human can. So, they definitely could sift through more to find good content. At this point, we could probably train our machines to evaluate whether a post is using good grammar, etc. Training them to evaluate whether the content is original, demonstrates thought leadership, and is of high-quality is another matter, though. I don’t think a machine, at this point, could discern between a post written as a joke and a post that is serious. I think human curators are going to be around for quite a while, though eventually machines may replace us as curators.

      I’ll definitely read your blog post. And thank you for being so responsive to comments and questions about Triberr!

      • says

        Hey Neicole,
        Thanks for your response. Your thoughts are exactly on point – machines are great at determining relevancy, but they’re really bad at determining quality. I totally agree with you.

        Check out that post though. I make the argument that machines can monitor how humans react to content as a quality signal. Based on those signals they can start to make basic quality judgement calls.

        The idea would never be to completely replace human curation. Just to get to a point where machines can sort through thousands of articles to deliver what they think will be good based on human quality signals, then we as humans can select the “best of the best” to share.

        We’re still a long way from that utopia, but we’re moving there quickly.

        Such a great topic. Thanks for sparking the conversation.

        • says

          Dan, I like your views on how machines can make life easier for us. While I share Neicole’s views on sharing quality and relevant content, you do make some great points. Seeing that you take out the time to comment on this post already gives me confidence in your offer.

    • says

      I share these comments at the risk of sounding like a fanboy or idealist but here goes… 😉

      Dan “The Man” Cristo makes some compelling arguments for automation without foregoing warmth, quality, and relevance. Providing stronger context and moderation will help circumvent audience tune-outs, I think. Interestingly enough, I’ve put a bug in Dino’s ear about these very issues so I’m excited to see Triberr break new grounds! Time will tell, as always.

  3. says

    Neicole, some great questions raised. However it seems to me you’ve presented the situation as either/or: we automate or we don’t, and it’s either good or bad.

    The key to making this kind of automation work when you include it in with lots of manual curation is trust in the source.

    You have to trust someone deeply to let them into your tribe in Triberr. It’s a quality play, not quantity.

    And yes, there are some people who’s blog post I will automatically retweet using an automation service, because I love them but I got tired of doing it manually.

    Tools are neither good nor bad, it’s all in how you use them. If you’re conscious of the experience you’re crafting, you’ll always choose the right tools and use them in the right way. For some that means they would never employ any form of automation at all, but for many of us, including choice forms of automation is part a successful strategy.

    • says

      Michael,

      Excellent point.

      I think that might have been part of the problem for me. I wasn’t doing any inviting, but people were just showing up in my tribe. I wasn’t quite understanding how it worked and how those people got in my “tribe.”

    • says

      Thanks, Michael. Believe me, I’m not against automation. I schedule my tweets, for instance, even though some people think that’s anathema.

      I understand the trust aspect. But as I said, even for the bloggers whom I trust, I don’t share all of their posts. There are blogs for which I share, probably, 80% to 90% of the posts. Not every post is relevant to my audience, though. Likewise, I wouldn’t expect people to share all of my posts with their audiences.

      I’m not a one-size fits all person. Everyone has their own philosophy and approach. I appreciate the benefits that Triberr offers. As I said, I just worry that auto-tweeting adds to the noise instead of helping us filter.

    • says

      Great comment thread all ’round, but I especially agree with Michael. I am only using Triberr with a very small group of people whom I “love” and would automatically retweet anyway. I am still finding the right balance between manual curation and automation, but balance is a verb, right?

  4. says

    Wow, Neicole. You nailed it here, at least in terms of my views. People may disagree, but I do not want to push out any content to my network that I haven’t read (and endorsed).

    I joined Tribrr by invitation but ended up dropping out for that very reason. My social networks are so important and I don;’t take the trust these people have paced in me lightly. I found people joining my tribe who I am sure were quality people but I had never met them, didn’t know their work and had never read one of their blog posts. It just felt like I was losing control.

    I started a Comment Buddies program as a little experiment a while back and tweeting and FBing each other’s posts was an option, but only if we felt a post was share-worhy. Of course, in order to determine that, they would have to actually read the thing!

    To me, my online reputation is too important to me to risk tarnishing it.

    I, too, think Dino and Dan are a couple of brilliant guys who came up with something that is obviously meeting a lot of people’s needs. Hats off to the two of them for their innovative thinking.

    • says

      Thanks for the compliments, Judy. We totally respect that Triberr isn’t for everyone. Thanks for giving it a try, and keep in mind that it’s still very much a baby of a site. We’re constantly adding features and incorporating feedback, especially around giving users more control over what gets tweeted to their stream.

      Most startups end up creating a company that was nothing like what they started with. I believe we’ll keep our core values in tact, but I guarantee that our one year old baby will be something completely different than what you experienced on the site today. Hopefully for the better :)

      • says

        Dan,

        Having started up a few companies myself, I get what you are saying. Flexing and evolving is all part of the process. You definitely are doing some things right because I am hearing good things about Tribrr.

        I think part of it comes down to how you see your social networks, don’t you? I don’t auto-tweet either, with the exception of my fellow bloggers’s posts at For Bloggers, By Bloggers. But you have to have an incredible amount of trust on someone to do that, at least for me. : )

        • says

          You’re completely right about the trust element.

          You know what’s funny. I’m probably the least active Triberr member on the site. haha. I keep very small tribes mostly filled with highly respected SEO folk who post about twice a month.

          Just this week I joined, “Anubis”, one of Dino’s super tribes, as a test for inbreeding. Anubis has 27 members, and my Tribal Stream immediately filled up with scheduled tweets. This was pretty scary for me. I quickly flipped it into manual mode.

          Now that I’m in manual mode I’m liking being in a super tribe. It’s nice – I’m looking through the tribe’s stream and I see 3 or 4 posts that are relevant, and well written. I’ll tweet those posts, and ignore the rest. Since I rarely post on my blog, I feel good about giving to the tribe more than I’m taking from it.

          In general, posts from Triberr tend to comprise about 5% of my total twitter stream. I could open the flood gates with super tribes, but personally, I prefer close-knit, super exclusive tribes.

          Triberr isn’t for everyone, but I really enjoy it, and I’m not even a blogger. lol.

    • says

      Thanks, Judy. You put it well: “My social networks are so important and I don’t take the trust these people have placed in me lightly.”

      I haven’t tried the Comment Buddies system. I’ve only just heard about it, actually, via Danny’s blog. It sounded like it may have similar problems to auto-tweeting. So, I like your approach, with commenting still being optional.

    • says

      LOL Dan.. I suppose that goes back to the old saying, “negative publicity is better than no publicity at all”. It’s good that so many disagree with the Triberr business model because that means you truly have some unique, if not revolutionary! If everyone “got it” right away, I’d go back to the drawing board. 😉

      • says

        yeah, both Dino and I embrace any sort of publicity we can get.

        Talk about bootstrapping it, Dino and I haven’t spent a dollar on marketing, and it’s only because of amazing people like Danny Brown, Erica Allison, Neicole Crepeau and tons and tons of others. Sometimes they’re all like, “Yay for Triberr!”. Sometimes they’re like, “Booo, for Triberr”. When it’s the “Booo’s”, it’s usually accompanied by valid points of concern, and we try our best to address them.

        I’d say that I’m quite thankful for negative posts and comments, because without those Triberr would lacking a lot of really cool functionality that makes the experience better for everyone. After all, even if you don’t use features like Manual Mode, it’s nice to know it’s there just in case.

        Negative posts also make competitors think twice about joining the space. When someone trusts you enough to connect their Twitter account to your site, you’ve still got to give them full control over their stream. You can’t do anything unexpected or funky like inserting ads.

        People’s social profiles are their babies. Sometimes they let you hold them, and sometimes they ask for them back. If they want that control back, then you’ve got to give it to them – else the backlash will sting. This was a lesson we learned early on, thanks to some constructive criticism from respected friends. Competitors can only learn from our mistakes for so long until they’ve got to make their own. If they don’t have friends in place to give that criticism, they’re going to ruin their shot at overtaking us.

        • says

          Right on, Dan!

          I believe it was Edison that said you have to double your failure rate to double your success rate. Cliche and perhaps over-used but SO very true. I know that I personally learn best by muckin’ things up so I say, “BRING IT!”

          The beauty of Triberr is that it is a success story EVERYONE should get excited about. No matter how much you guys have boomed in a little over three months, you keep that small business vibe going where your customers, your community, are at the center of every action. That’s something special.

          What’s even more remarkable is that your success story battles a lot of stigmas about how business should be. Bootstrapping is realistic and social media makes it even more feasible for us little guys to stand out. I’m excited for you, Dino, and the team over at Triberr. I feel that, together, we can bring some necessary change to the business world and online communities in one fell swoop!

          It’s interesting that this guest post from Neicole comes at a time in which rampant debates about authenticity, marketing noise, and receiving constructive cricitism gracefully come into focus once again. It’s all part of the underlying theme of differentiation and doing the “right thing”. Every side of these arguments make great points but, ultimately, it is our convicitions and persistence that will help us persevere.

          For me, opinions keep us in check and allow us to explore new paths and angles.. Again, keep the disagreements going – I LOVE it! ;o)

  5. says

    Neicole, I don’t know if you caught it when I wrote it, but I also wrote a post on Triberr, early on, publicly breaking up with them. It was just days before the launch of manual mode and I was in a seriously large group of bloggers that I didn’t really know. I was killing myself to keep up with the posts and comments and realized I was defeating the purpose of being in the tribe. The results of my brief time in the Tribe: my klout score improved, my twitter followers increased, but I felt disingenuous.

    Fast forward to today and ironically enough, I just accepted an invitation from my friend Justin Brackett for a very small tribe of people that I know, but don’t always read. Literally, just last night, I accepted the invitation and in my response to Justin, said, I’ll have some explaining to do to people after my very public break up!

    Short version of an upcoming blog post and why I chose to get back in:
    the manual mode will allow me to curate the content;

    I’m going in a million different directions and I’ll now be able to catch new posts as they are ‘queued up';

    I’ll broaden my reach (yes, that is important to me);

    Since my tribe isn’t full of people that I normally RT now, I won’t be duplicating my content curation;

    If I don’t tweet posts often enough, I’ll be kicked out.

    Biggest reason: there are now mechanisms in place that will allow me to remain authentic, yet take advantage of some time-saving applications.

    You can bet I agonized over this decision to jump in again. I’ll be writing about it soon!

    Funny, the timing of this post! I love it! I also love your content curation argument, Neicole! Best, Erica

    • says

      Thanks, Erica. I will look for your post. As I said, I have no problem with using the new queue feature to actually read and choose what to share. In that case, you’re taking advantage of the auto-scheduling part of Triberr.

      In my case, I already have a couple of Tribes that I’m part of. Just not through Triberr. I use other tools to read their posts every day and share many of them, and I assume they read mine most day. More of that trust thing. I am technically part of a very small Tribe on Triberr, using the queue method. But I don’t go into Triberr that much, because I read all their posts and share them anyway.

      Triberr does have some advantages, though. I don’t share my friends’ posts multiple times a day, as Triberr does. That would be a reason to use the product, and I might use it more extensively at some point in the future. But, like you, I will always read what I share and be selective.

      • says

        Hi Neicole,

        I cant wait for Erica’s new post :-)

        Also, just as an FYI, Triberr doesnt share your posts multiple times per day via same Twitter stream. It sens it in staggered intervals one time via the tribe.

        I just wanted to point that out before I go off and comment on some of the other comments :-)

        • says

          Thought you might get excited about that! You might have to wait a day or two…but it’s coming.

          I must say that even though it’s been a day, being in a smaller tribe is very cool.
          E

    • says

      Funny story: your post was one of the things that kept me from getting into Triberr, Erica.. But you’re absolutely right: if your Tribe contains people you normally don’t retweet, it makes sense to have that extra reach. Of course, you can’t let Triberr do ALL the work for you: go out there, meet your fellow tribesmen and tribeswomen, and build rapport.

      Currently, I’ve been feeling out my fellows in the “Birds of a Feather” tribe. Keri is particularly cool and insightful. Dave Gallant is also a great guy. I would not have met them otherwise so Triberr doubles as a social-professional networking, which differentiates it quite a bit, IMHO.

      I can’t wait for the coming weeks and months to see what new doors open up thanks to Triberr. As it is, I’ve got some great collaborations in the pipelines so I am glad I made the decision to join Triberr. Had I let the mostly preemptive negative articles about Triberr keep me away, I’d be missing out.

      • says

        I tell you what, Dino and I are really excited to be at a place with the site where we can literally sit back and just focus on incorporating the many ideas the amazing community comes up with. Case and point… You mentioned that Triberr could double as a social-professional networking – sort of like a LinkedIn for Bloggers.

        After hearing that idea, my mind automatically starts to envision Triberr scanning blog posts, tweeting patterns and connections to recommend bloggers who are similar in nature to each other.

        Maybe these two bloggers operate in different circles (or tribes, hehe), but they both blog about the same stuff, have similar sized audiences, and live in the same state. Wouldn’t that be cool if Triberr could, “Make the introduction” so to speak.

        Or maybe you’ve been invited into a tribe and you’re just meeting your tribesmen for the first time. Wouldn’t it be neat if Triberr could give you a quick run down of each tribesmen with stats about what they blog about, their most popular posts, etc. Maybe even recommending which tribesmen would be good matches for guest blogging.

        All of this stuff is going well beyond the utility of a simple syndication tool, and that’s cool with us. If you saw Dino’s latest guest post here on Danny’s site, he talked about barriers to entry in the space. My takeaway from that was that a syndication tool is easy to copy, but a thriving community that mashes utility, social functionality with a dash of fun is not something easily replicated.

        That’s what we’re shooting for, and it’s not something Dino and I can build on our own. It would need to be done by the collective community, and so far it looks like we’re headed in that direction.

  6. says

    I wrote a post about turning off Twitterfeed about two weeks ago and going fully for hand picking the content I share with my Twitter audience. I find it takes a bit more time, and I don’t update as often, but people can be sure that whatever I do post is because I have given it the virtual seal of approval. I think that’s the best way to online authenticity because no matter how good the blog is, not everything they post is gold (myself included).

  7. says

    Neicole–You’ve hit on my big concern with Triberr (and why I haven’t joined): I don’t want to flood my network with every post everyone has written. (Nor do I think every post I write is going to be relevant to all.)

    We seem to have gotten very good at aggregation — but we don’t yet have tools that are doing a good job of curation.

    Dan–If Triberr allows for “manual mode” retweets that is is good to know (and helpful). But then I’m not sure how much more useful this is than just finding interesting stuff via links others have tweeted out, via RSS, and so forth.

    Certainly, a good discussion for us all to have.

    • says

      Hey Daria,
      I think Manual Mode has some interesting benefits over RSS feeds. For one, you may have joined a tribe because a friend invited you, but you’re not sure who the others are in there. Manual Mode allows you to ‘test the waters’ a bit.

      The other big advantage is that when you’re brought into a tribe, you’re exposed to new bloggers that might not be on your RSS feed. It’s like having a friend (your chief) tell you, “Hey, add these bloggers to your RSS feed, cause their stuff is good”. But instead of managing a dozens of RSS feeds, you’ve got a ready-to-tweet queue.

      The last advantage is that we’ll soon be adding quality scores to posts. This would be the equivalent to having an indicator on your RSS feed that says, “Lots of your friends liked this post, check it out first”.

      A final point worth mentioning, unrelated to Manual Mode” is Naked Stats. Without Naked Stats, you may know that 10 of your friends RT’d your post, but you have no idea if any of their followers clicked on it. Naked Stats shows you how many of each of your friends followers visited your post.

      I could go on about other features like how Triberr schedules your posts to send to your Tweet Stream at the time of day your followers are most likely to see it, but that’s another blog post all together.

      We’re only a few months old, and we’re working on some new features that are just going to be mind-blowing for bloggers. It’s exciting.

      • says

        I do like the idea of stats. And I did read your blog post, Dan, on the quality score ideas. I think you have something there. The tribe presumably already offers a quality filter already. Adding information about the ratings of posts–and/or the blog over time–by those within the Tribe can really help to surface quality content based on the opinions of those whom you already rate highly. I like that!

        • says

          Thanks, Dan. I like where you’re trying to go with Triberr — especially the stats and the no-automation options so I have the control I want to curate the content.

          I guess I’m going to have to check out Triberr one day soon.

  8. says

    Neicole, I feel similarly. When I see something shared through Triberr I think, “You didn’t read it…so why should I?” Like you, I pride myself on reading every link I share. I just wouldn’t feel good about automating that.

    • says

      Thanks, Jen. Triberr did add a feature that lets people change their settings so that they have to approve items before they are shared. That’s how I have it set, for the tiny tribe I’m currently a part of. So, some of those people may be reading the content first. It’s not clear from the stream, though, who has and who hasn’t.

      • says

        Just wanted to jump in and point out that we underwent a pretty massive redesign this weekend.

        One of the things we changed was when you go into your tribe, you can now see what “mode” each member is in. Hope this helps.

  9. says

    What a discussion…wow :-)

    First, thank you Neicole for writing about Triberr. There is clearly something about it that burrowed its way into your head and this was a great way to get it out.

    As a kind of a marketing dude myself, I believe that any publicity is good publicity, and the way you presented the information, I think this is GREAT publicity for Triberr. So, thank you :-)

    One question that I’ve presented in the past to purists like yourself (and btw, there is absolutely nothing wrong with being a purist) is this.

    How do you know what 1,734 of your followers are in the mood to read right now?

    You may have found an awesome post about catching bats using super glue which you plan on doing on your upcoming trip to the rain forest, and this “bat” post was the best thing to happen to you that day, and so you share it.

    But what if one of your tribesmen has published a post that wasnt relevant to you at all and therefore, you found it less than exciting. The post is about latest avalanche on the Appalachian hiking trail, and one of your 1,734 would have seen it before they went for a hike, if only you had it automated.

    They could choose to read what IS relevant to them (avalanche on the Appalachian hiking trail) and ignore the other that was relevant to you (catching bats in rain forest).

    The thing is, and plz tell me if Im wrong about this, we DONT know what our followers want to read. So, if I know Dan publishes solid content about SEO, and some of my followers want SEO info, I dont have a problem tweeting every one of his posts.

    If the other followers dont want SEO info, there is no gun to their head forcing them to click.

    In fact, I think part of the charm of Twitter is very much like TV. We dont want to see whats on, we want to see what ELSE is on. Even if we dont click.

    But, thats just me. I’d love to hear your take on this.

    • says

      Happy to give you some publicity, Dino!! (And thanks to Danny for giving me the opportunity.) I really do like a lot of things about Triberr. And it works for a lot of people and has obviously really helped many people improve their reach.

      I think the logic in your comment is flawed though. By that logic, we should all share everything, because somebody might want to read it. We then have no filters at all, and it actually becomes harder to find good content because we’re getting so much thrown at us.

      I, too, love Twitter. For an information junkie like me, it’s terrific. But as a UX designer, I have to note that most people filter Twitter. Once they get beyond a certain threshold of tweeps they are following, people create lists in Twitter or third-party systems so that they mostly see the tweets from a select set of people. They filter because they need some way to reduce the flood and try to focus on the most useful and relevant information.

      Also, from a marketing perspective, I want to build an audience of people who are my target customers. To attract them, I need to share information that will be of interest to those customers, which is probably not everything under the sun, but quality content around certain topics.

      I really like the fact that when I do want to share a fellow tribe member’s content, Triberr shares it multiple times a day for me. That’s a handy feature that I would like to take advantage of. Because when I think something’s good, I want it to get lots of exposure!!

  10. says

    I remember checking out Tiberr when it first came out. I like the concept and can certainly appreciate the work and concept behind Triberr, as you said it takes something that already exists in the blogging world at some level and spins off of it. However, as much as I like the concept behind Triberr, the “auto” thing just won’t ever work for me, I’m happy to see that there is an option in triberr to do it manually, that’s a plus to the noise factor that’s for sure.

    I guess my biggest thing is that I already communicate and work closely with my network of Twitter friends, I visit their blogs, read, comment and re-tweet on the articles I feel my following will get the most out of. Since I use a solid RSS reader and stick to my own personal RT rules I don’t really “need” to tie triberr in to my daily doings. Who knows maybe in the future I’ll find a reason to work it in to the mix of things.

    Excellent guest post.

    • says

      You will join Triberr. We will pull you in with our seductive charms. You will succumb to our calls :-)

      Are these the droids I’m looking for? lol

      • says

        Hey hey Dino, hope everything is going GREAT. There’s a good chance that you will :) My projects change all the time, we constantly have new ideas and new things coming in to play and there may be a need for us to use Triberr in the future. I certainly wouldn’t count it out, but in regards to my personal brand I don’t really see a need for it at the moment.

  11. says

    Man, this is an in-depth conversation going down here!!! Bad ass! Love it!

    I still have to go look triberr for myself but it seems to me that any program that automates a behavior you’d already do if you managed yourself as effectively as you possibly could is the way to roll. And it seems like Dino and Dan are getting in tune with what the market wants by steeping in this conversation here which I believe will be the key to making this better and better and better.

    Thanks Neicole for sharing this post along with all of your thoughtful comments!

      • says

        I love hearing the perceptions of bloggers towards Triberr. Especially the part where Dan an I come off as engaging.

        The truth is, we’ve always been engaged. We are both bloggers. We’re not some clever dudes with Venture Capital backing…we’ are one of you guys.

        One of the taglines we considered for Triberr was For Bloggers By Bloggers, but someone already beat us to it :-)

        But I think that tagline really reflects the sentiment. No feature gets implemented unless it answer the questions “How does this help a blogger?”.

        For example, did you see the Naked Stats? That was all Dan’s doing and it blew my mind clear across the room.

  12. says

    As someone that previously was on the fence about Triberr for the same reasons, I can relate all the way. I think Dino and Dan are making big changes to bring the focus to quality standards, warm connections, and relevance enforcement. That said, I’m using the auto-tweet flavor of Triberr and I am happy with the results. Still, I get more participation and conversions from the stuff I do with that extra traffic. I don’t think Dino launched Triberr as a way to cut corners because the man is all about “high touch” and networking with key influencers and supporters. I understand the worries about creating noise, but that’s what filters and lists are for on Twitter, no?

    • says

      As I said, I don’t believe in one-size-fits-all. If it’s working for you, that’s great. And from everything I have seen, Dino and Dan are high-integrity entrepreneurs, trying to do the right thing while, I assume, also trying to make a living. They seem like great guys.

      • says

        Indeed.

        I think we’re seeing how Triberr is evolving into more of a customizable experience, much like Twitter was. Dino and Dan have made great strides thus far and it’s only been a few months. I see big things for Triberr!

        BTW, I definitely agree about one-size-fits-all not being the way to go. I was mainly playing devil’s advocate; however, I can see where some may see the value in a more “blanket approach” to supplement their own efforts and legwork. You can’t replace hard work and human interaction so, believe me, I understand your position and agree with the thoughts behind it.

        My hopes are that Triberr and Twitter alike will evolve into something where everyone gets the content they want and can connect with like-minded individuals. It’s more about facilitating good habits, not creating bad ones. I think that is the spirit of Triberr.

  13. says

    I’ve been watching Triberr for a while now, and I LOVE the idea of having a tool to allow people to solve the content curation problem. HOWEVER, it still feels a bit too much like a spam tool. While I respect the “goal” of the tool that Dino and Dan have created, the reality is that people looking to push out quantity are more likely to use Triberr than people looking to fill their twitter streams with QUALITY. I suppose its a bit like email automation tools. Most businesses need them, but especially the spammers, who abuse/over-use them. It would be interesting to see if there is a reputation management side of Triberr coming. A way for people to “mark” tribe members (especially under the concept of super tribes) based on their activity levels. Of course this only matters until we have computers that can solve the Quality questions inherent in content curation.

    • says

      Yeah, as Neicole mentioned we’re talking about various quality signals based on how humans react to contact, but that’s more on the curation side of things.

      For a more direct response to reputation management and accountability, we’re in the process of building in Karma points. Basically a way for members of the site to rate and review other members. Sort of borrowing that personal reputation mechanism from eBay and bringing it over to Triberr to help with accountability.

      • says

        I was thinking along the lines of what you both (Brendan and Dan) have mentioned in this comment thread…

        In order for this to work, there needs to be more incentive for people to promote and interact with other Tribesmen. We have to be honest with ourselves: most of us just want the extra reach but don’t particularly care for what our fellow Tribesmen are posting.. There are ways to fix that.

        Right-fitting people into the perfect Tribes for them is one thing to look at. Some Tribes may be more about quantity but others may be more about quality. Getting our habits and goals in-sync makes sense so it’s not just about content but also context.

        Perhaps Tribesmen can earn more “juice” when they create natural links to fellow Tribesmen content. This can be by way of writing full articles linking to source material or simply writing mini-reviews, summaries, or key take-away bullet point lists on Triberr.com – the possibilities are endless there!

        Members with more “juice” have more weight when they vote content and Triberrs up/down. This sounds like what you guys have been bouncing around with regards to Karma points. In fact, Karma is brilliant: do onto others as you’d like done onto you.

        There is a catch!

        You have to implement systems that keep people honest. Encouraging some really connections and relationship building, alongside content curation, is what I’m suggesting. It’s easy to click “Like” or rate something but what does that really mean?

        Perhaps a built-in review feature in the streams would make sense, with links to more details so as to not go all information-overloady in the summary screens. The reason I suggest this is because we may like someone’s style, subject matter, presentation, tone, or whatever.. But we may not like all those aspects.

        For example, I tend to write very informative, easy-to-read articles but they tend to be lengthy and all-encompassing. That turns off people from participating because they either quit halfway through the read or feel they can’t add any value to what I already provided. Having simple slidebar and yes/no qualifiers to give content more context makes sense.

        In addition, we should be able to tag content with overall categories and more specific keywords thereof. Perhaps those items themselve can be voted upon to give appropriate items more weight according to popularity, relevance, and significance. Choosing from a pool of standardized keywords will keep things more consistent on that end, too.. This is a MUST for the bigger buckets, your categories and other top-level data.

        I have many more ideas but I won’t reveal trade secrets here.. Besides, I know I wrote another one of my novels. Sorry about that. 😉

    • says

      Hi Brendan,

      So…whenever I bring someone new into my Anubis tribe (25 members and growing) their first reaction is “Of shit, people are actually now reading my posts, I better put out quality stuff”.

      THAT has been the overwhelming response to joining tribes.

      I thought, just like you, that the response would be “oh great, I can put out shitty content now that I have reach”, but its been the opposite.

      #NiceSurprise :-)

      • says

        Well, glad to hear that! Where’s the joy in writing if you don’t believe you’re writing the best content you can? Personally, I’d rather not write at all then dish out garbage just for traffic.

      • says

        That’s fantastic. That sort of accountability is good to improve quality across the board. My fear is centered around the people that want reach and don’t give a rip about quality. I love how engaged you and Dan are with your product, and how you are actively working through the challenges and problems. For the record, I am a qualitatively and quantitatively poor blogger. Which is why the accountability you describe would be great for me, but my tribe wouldn’t get the benefit of my membership.

        • says

          Lets speak to the issue of people who dont give a rip.

          The Chief can always kick people our of his tribe. So if someone sucks, the can consult the tribe and banish the rotten apple from the tribe.

          Conversely, if the Chief is the one who sucks, you are always free to leave that tribe. And you always have 3 tribes of your own to rule in the best way possible.

          So, we’ve tried to make it as real-life as possible and with as many checks and balances as possible.

  14. says

    I think both rationales have flaws.. Here’s WHY:

    1. We assume that our followers are not already inundated with content.
    2. We assume that they are not filtering and weeding out the junk (see above).
    3. We assume that people are always in the mood for the same type of stuff (this is an issue with “niche marketing” as well).

    There are more assumptions but you get the idea. There is no magic solution or “one size fits all” approach here. Really, do automatic (or automagic) solutions preclude warmth, your authenticity and personal touch? I think not. 8)

    • says

      …Whoops, this was supposed to be a reply in response to Neicole and Dino discussing the flaws in their respective logic. The point here is that there is no right or wrong but, certainly, what makes Triberr special is that Dino and Dan listen to people. You can’t say that about too many things these days… 😉

  15. says

    I want someone to read and share what I write because they choose to do it. If someone wants to share my stuff on Triberr or Twitter or wherever, my hat’s off to the person. But I don’t need to be a member of that site for that person to share it.

    • says

      I think we all have that attitude to some point.

      Please don’t think of Triberr as some sort of, “I’ll share your stuff if you share my stuff”. That’s really not what we’re building here. That’s more of a TribePro mentality.

      Instead, think of Triberr as, “Hey, I’m already an active member of a few online communities; commenting and sharing is something I do already on almost every post. Maybe Triberr can help save me some time”. If that’s your mentality, then you’ll get a lot out of Triberr, because we’re just taking your existing tribe and making it visible.

      If you’re putting out content, even great content, but you’re not actively engaged in other online communities, then you’re not a part of a tribe anyway. Not that you “need” to have a tribe, but it sure does make blogging easier and more fun.

      • says

        It sounds to me that Triberr is more about data and less about people. Keywords and links = data.

        If someone is automatically tweeting a blog post title and a link without context or manual addenda, that is adding to the collection of data that Google indexes from Twitter, no?

        When I see someone tweet a link, if there’s no reason added why that link is tweeted, I hit the reply button and ask for the reason. Would Triberr be the reason in those cases?

        I follow people on Twitter for specific reasons, with the links they share never being factored. But that’s me. How does Triberr help?

        • says

          Hi Ari,

          In my case, the context is two fold.

          I want to discover amazing new bloggers and put them on the fast track to recognition. My Anubis tribe is all about that.

          The other context is this.

          I approach Twitter curation at a human level. Not on per-post basis.

          So when I tweet your stuff automagically, its because I know your work and I know what you do.

          Why do hundreds of people retweet superstar bloggers without reading their stuff? Because they know what these guys do and whilst today’s post may not be useful to me, it may be useful to you.

          Hope that makes sense. I promise, it makes perfect sense in my head :-)

          • says

            Personally, I have a problem with people retweeting the superstars posts without reading them, as well. Some of the superstars put out a lot of crap with a just a few gems, at least from my experience.

            • says

              OMG how I agree with that. 100%.

              Their content doesnt deserve a auto retweet (done manually :-) but why should they be the only ones that get it?

              Triberr levels the playing field in that regard and allows small bloggers to experience the same thing, and quite possibly catch a large swath of readers in the process away from the superstars.

          • says

            Yes it makes perfect sense — which is why I won’t touch Triberr with a 20-foot pole. That is, as a person. If I was an organization wanting to be the go-to expert in a given subject area, I’d retweet anything automatically.

  16. says

    Neicole, I respect your opinion on the Triberr issue and curating aspects of sharing online. I do my best to filter what I share with my followers also, not only to keep their feeds from getting cluttered, but it allows varying levels of sharing. Some posts I will comment, retweet and RT with a message, others, I may comment but not share at all. Some days I find nothing relevant to anything (few and far between, but it happens)and move on.

    I used Triberr a couple of months ago (prior to the latest round of updates) as a tool to help with my overall reach. Being new to the blogging world, I was skeptical, but it looked like a great way to help draw traffic to me and cross-level audiences. At the time, I found it bordering the spammy side. The system was not spreading the tweets out as I had expected them to and the formatting of the automated tweets, while concise and following commonly agreed upon formatting, just looked plain and impersonal. I destroyed my territory.

    Since giving it a shot again, I have found that several tweaks were implemented and several of those issues have been solved. As for the curating, I do not think it hinders me much to use a tool like Triberr because of my sharing practices. I can still RT at a later time if I really appreciate the post.

    I do not feel that I am cheating my followers by doing this any more than I would be by announcing a post via Networked Blogs, Hootsuite, or any other scheduling program. As long as my readers know that I do engage them and continue to read the content I share, then I think we still have a win-win, loving relationship.

    Awesome post. Danny, as always, you impress me with your ability to provide conversation worthy content!

    • says

      Hey Brandon,
      Thanks for giving Triberr another shot.

      Start-up’s have a lot of disadvantages (We can’t hire any help, we’re going to make a lot of mistakes, we develop features LIVE on the production environment, etc), but to our advantage, we’re agile, we’re passionate about what we’re building, and we care about the community.

      As we continue to evolve, we’ll continue to help you keep that relationship with your followers authentic and engaging.

      • says

        Dan,

        Oh, absolutely. I get it completely. Same with beginning bloggers such as myself. I can only ask so many questions before paying for workshops and books. I make mistakes all the time (especially on Twitter) but I keep trudging on.

        The impressive thing is watching what people do after these mistakes. Do they learn from it and make things better? Do they ignore everything they’re told?

        You guys are improving by leaps and bounds. I appreciate that. Funny thing is that there are many who do not understand the amount of work involved in making a better product, so they do not come back. I feel for you as a developer. :)

        • says

          The #Triberr team are extremely responsive and consider ideas, and so, we give them many and often. They are getting better and better – and the start was a great thing already.
          As for any problems with sharing others’ posts to your Twitter feed, as a happy member of five Tribes, three bold statements for everyone to consider:
          1. We are supposed to share in Twitter. You do it already, and so, even with the “auto” setting, up to one post/day to a twitter feed i not a huge burden.
          2. You can set to “manual” – and delay approval/rejection of each and every blog tweet that would go to your account.
          3. This is driving quality. That’s right, quality. My blog used to be seen by a few people every time I published. Thanks to Triberr, my reach is 407,000 and growing. 21 people share my posts, a few of them manual/most auto, but I always get approved, at least so far. Instant Twitter health, with all the mentions included, and the reactions and comments have grown greatly. The Google Analytics suggest 4X growth in the last four weeks, but what puts a mile on my face are the bonafide relationships that are developing between tribemembers.
          Welcome the Triberr “curious” and even doubters to hit me in Twitter or SKYPE for ideas and incredible Triberr stories and help in working Triberr in a way that suits your style:
          1. Selecting the best Tribe that will take you (knock yourself out; the majority will not – just as you are picky about your Twitter feed, we Tribal Chief will look at your blog content and Twitter stats and decide if you should fill what are, after all, limited spaces);
          2. Controlling your .rss to limit what gets fed to your tribemembers’ Twitter accounts;
          3. Collaborating with Triberr bloggers throughout the system

          I love it, and am happy to give back.

    • says

      Hey, it sounds like Triberr with it’s newest features is working for you. That’s great. I fully intend to keep an eye on Triberr as it evolves–rapidly! I hope I’ll find it’s the right tool for me, too, before long. Right now, it’s not quite what I’m looking for, but I wouldn’t be surprised if I change my mind like Erica, eventually.

  17. says

    Neicole,

    I have a hard time commenting on sites that I don’t have anything of value to say. I just can’t do it even when I want to. I hate junk tweets. Sounds good in the beginning but in the end I think it might make my tweets more like just more junk to ignore. Noise. Thanks for writing.

  18. says

    Neicole,

    I am just with Michael. You can and have to do automation at a certain level on certain things you really do trust. I have a handful of blogs whose RSS has been fed to my Market Me suite. I don’t want to tweet those posts manually; I trust those bloggers for quality and I am sure my followers like that kind of posts.

    You have to be careful though, when you select who comes in your tribe. You have to curate your tribe members very carefully. If you do so, then you don’t have to worry about automated tweeting.

    Jane.

    • Neicole Crepeau says

      It’s all about your business, goals, and audience. If it works for you, that’s great. I have no problem with automation, per se. And I admit that I am probably particularly picky!

  19. says

    Very interesting post as I have been using Triberr for awhile now and really enjoy the platform and the tribes that I am apart of. It seems that you are trying to say that if you auto tweet your posts or use services such as these then you are going to have a bad reputation? As I don’t think that is true at all. You can pick and choose the various tribes that you are apart of and build tribes so that your audience that you do cater to receives content that would be valuable to them. But, the idea is how can one person decide what is valuable content to another person though? You might primarily talk about one subject via your blog but another blogger might offer some information that can help some one else out in a division that you never talk about to help another person increase there income for there business or brand.

    • says

      I’m not saying you’ll get a bad reputation, necessarily. But I am saying that I think it’s better to be known as a good source of information about x, y, and z. As I said to Dino in the earlier comments, sure you don’t know for certain that some of your followers might not be interested in a given post. But that means we all share everything, which definitely creates a problem of way too much noise.

  20. says

    I must be the luckiest user of Triberr as, so far, Triberr has helped me:

    1. Connect with more awesome people like Danny (here), Mark Schaefer at {grow}, Gini Dietrich, Kazia, and many others.
    2. I’ve gotten business from new connections.
    3. I am now a guest poster on {grow}
    4. Increased my traffic – the numbers went up and stayed up, as did my RSS subscribers

    So perhaps I have a very different view of it. Having said that…

    I think we need to take into account how people use Twitter versus another site like Facebook. People spend hours of time on Facebook, so if you continued putting links in front of them they would either completely hate you or thank you for curing their boredom at work :) Twitter on the other hand is different.

    I was introduced to 14blocks.com via a tweet from Gini. According to that app, the number of people that follow me on Twitter that are actually using the site varies wildly throughout the day. Also, while the average number of people a typical person on Twitter used to me 10, that number is now 100 (think that was from TechCrunch). If each of those people posts one tweet between when I looked last and when I got on, that could be 100 tweets!

    So, what is the likelihood that a single person, once they get back on Twitter, when faced with 100 tweets, or even 50, are going to read everyone of them, click every link, read every post? Slim to none.

    It could be argued that people pay more attention to some folks they follow than others, but I have yet to see that proven out.

    Also, the tribes are what you make of them. I have one – Digital Marketing – where I vetted every single person in it before adding them. I ensure their content is a match not only for my followers but for the group. Only one person has been added within the months the tribe has been active (and Triberr has existed).

    • says

      The tribe aspect definitely helps to allow you to filter content. I just want even more control. I’m only using Triberr with the Queue feature, personally. I would have to look for the data, but my impression from just monitoring the studies on Twitter is that most regular users, once they get beyond a certain number of people they are following, using lists or another method to primarily view only a subset of people. They are filtering in their own way.

      • says

        Does the manual mode solve that? It seems that then your queue would be from the people that you trust (hence they are in your tribes) and you only approve what you want. Granted then that defeats the use of Triberr as you can do that with a standard RSS reader.

        So it sounds that you aren’t the target market for Triberr. That’s not good or bad, just how it is :)

  21. says

    It sat uncomfortably with me at first but after I got invited to join a great Triberr I gave it a real shot and have been very happy with the results. Yes, there’s a lot more noise but I do think that it benefits my business site because it’s given me more comments, more visitors and more tweets. Now that can’t be a bad thing.

    Automation is necessary here if you’re a business. For example, Buffer App is another brilliant service to help you connect, but this time through delayed (or buffered) tweets.

    Because I don’t have so much reach in the US or Australia, it’s great to see my fellow Tribe sharing my posts in their regions. I hope the benefit is mutual.

    • says

      Hi Jon,

      That is very important for me to hear, and Im glad to hear you say it :-)

      Giving Triberr a cursory glance might make it seam like an icky service, but one of the guiding and fundamental elements of building Triberr for me and Dan has been “is it on-code?”.

      “On-code” is a phrase used by psychologists to describe the natural flow of things in an equilibrium state.

      In other words, on-code is a checks and balances guidebook where the site’s mechanics are meant to be more-than-fair to all.

      A good example of that are manual tweets.

      If you have a guest post on another blog and you want to send it via your tribe, you can spend Bones to do so. However, part of the cost will go back to your tribesmates.

      So, yes, you do get to use my twitter stream but you also compensate me in the form of Bones. These Bones can then be used by you to expand you tribe (for example).

      Anyways…being on-code is a very important guiding principle for us and its what keeps us grounded and fair.

      Thank you for noticing that :-)

  22. says

    Gee, you really hit a nerve with this one, Neicole! I’m going to give Triberr a go to see if it works for my audience. Like you, however, I read everything I repost for my followers, and feel great responsibility to only post things I value. So it’s going to be a grand experiment.

  23. Karen Bice says

    Hi Neicole. Interesting post. I’m a fan of Triberr and maybe it’s because I’m not blogging (maybe someday soon) and I’m not in marketing. I really enjoyed seeing the different Triberr tweets for so many bloggers I wouldn’t have known about without Triberr. Now, I’m assuming because of the option to not auto post the tweets, I don’t see any Triberr related tweets. My stream feels really boring now, and most non-Triberr tweets being constantly shared are plain boring. I estimate at least 80% of tweeters could hold back 80% of their tweets in the interest of not boring their audience to death. I mean, how many times can a subject be regurgitated to death? Like I said, interesting post. :)

      • Karen Bice says

        Yes, I think it was last week that I noticed I wasn’t seeing Triberr tweets. But I check my twitter stream periodically throughout day, and only for a couple of minutes, and I don’t do a search for them, which maybe I should. I try to get on at night for an hour or so and I used to see Triberr tweets a lot then, which was a good time for me to check them out. Thanks, Neicole.

        • says

          It used to be easy to search for triberr sent tweets, you just did a search for, “tribr.it” and you could see all the latest tweets. Maybe a month back we switched over the shortener to a handful of random ones so that we could use tribr.it for something else.

          Lucky for you, we’re working on ways to bring that tweet goodness to the surface. So for example, if you wanted to see the most recent or most popular tweets on triberr you’ll soon be able to see them on the homepage, and if you want a specific tribe, just go to that tribe page.

          Give us, say… two weeks, and that stuff should be in place.

  24. says

    Whoo..

    What an amazing post and important discussion….

    I love it.. a lot of passion.. gr8 stuff :)

    General speaking, when you look at relationship building on social media, then most users learn to filter the noise of mass/broadcast marketing…

    I’m not a blogger, so i dont have a tribe.. but i’m in some tribes.. helping some bloggers i love to spread their word to my followers..

    We learn that most twitter users don’t really read their feed, and if a person follow many people he gets a lot of tweets …

    So…i see this discussion is more about the change in broadcast marketing and the importance of a more personal approach towards marketing in the social world…

    Thank you for this discussion… i learned a lot from it.
    Sharel

  25. says

    Hey there guys,

    Can I just say, Whoa! :)

    Neicole, thank you again for such a great guest post, and for starting such an awesome discussion from both sides of the fence. This is what’s so great about blogging, and why I love the community here – points of view and counterpoints handled with respect and grace :)

    And the Triberr guys for always being so responsive, and for acknowledging where they can improve – please stay like this even when you become monster-size huge! 😉

  26. says

    Has anyone noticed that if you add a Twitter application like Twitpic or similar, that they have a clause in the agreement you have to click before giving you access that they’re allowed to post tweets on your behalf? I thought that was kinda scary…

    Here’s what I read from one application:
    “This application will be able to:

    * Read Tweets from your timeline.
    * See who you follow, and follow new people.
    * Update your profile.
    * Post Tweets on your behalf.

    This application will not be able to:

    * Access your private messages.
    * See your Twitter password.”

    Of course all heck would break loose if one of these applications ever posted on my behalf… and I’m sure anyone who agrees with this post. Still, it makes me wonder why they put that in the agreement in the first place.

    Hand select posts myself, but schedule them to go out so as not to overwhelm anyone with what I’m reading at the moment, which is usually back to back posts.

  27. says

    Thanks for the very informative article, Neicole. The company I work with, StoryCrawler, makes content curation pretty easy. It brings in information from across the Internet (blogs, news sites, social media, video, etc.) based on specific keywords the user wants to track. The user can then log into the dashboard and quickly curate the content for fast publication on any Internet or mobile platform. It’s the perfect combination of automation and human curation.

  28. says

    I’m with you in that totally against these sorts of sites. Surely there has to be a bigger reason to be blogging rather than automatically tweeting other people’s blog posts in return for a tiny piece of traffic. What if I write a blog post saying “All Arabs should be shot” and you go ahead and RT that? Add in the fact that Twitter sends tiny amounts of traffic and you get why I think this is a such a bad idea.

  29. Danny Brown says

    Thanks, miss, gotta love having both sides of the coin and I love how Neicole presented it, and Dan/Dino’s willingness to answer. :)

  30. crumpyliciousblog says

    After reading your post, it makes me wonder whether twitter needs curation at all because everyone I follow tweets and some of them are relevant to me and some I rather not care about. But it doesn’t really bother me that they tweet like that.

  31. PeterMasters says

    @crumpyliciousblog I can see your point and fair comment, no one with a good sized following does or would even want to read every Tweet.

    On that very subject, Subjot has come up with a great Twitter alternative, where you follow individuals particular subjects rather than just individuals. A simple but inspired idea and even thought it’s currently in private beta, it’s getting some good press.

    Back to Triberr, I believe that triberr’s analytics show how many retweets people receive and therefore, if someone’s post never received any it would indicate the posts were no good, irrelevant or they were just in the wrong tribe.

    To me Triberr is a great marketing tool.

    Best regards, thanks for the post, Peter

  32. executiveoasis says

    There is somethig that a lot of  people forget about Triberr. Manual sharing is the default. To put tribe members on “automatic shaing” it costs. You pay using bones that you have pre-purchased with REAL money. I doublt that most users will pay for something that they can do for free. It’s human nature. I notice that Tribe members take the time and share selectively.

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