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Triberr - The Reach Multiplier

This is a guest post by Neicole Crepeau.

Triberr is taking the blogging world by storm. And my hat is off to its creators, Dino Dogan and Daniel Cristo for trying to help smaller bloggers like myself get exposure.

I can definitely understand the appeal of Triberr, Twitterfeed, and other RSS auto-post systems. I find myself hesitant to use them, though. As a content curator, they don’t meet my needs–and I’m worried they’re just adding to the noise.

Triberr, Twitterfeed, and Similar Tools

Triberr offers a quid-pro-quo arrangement with other bloggers. You become part of up to four tribes. They tweet your blog posts (the timing handled by Triberr), and you tweet their’s. By default, this just happens automatically without you having to think about it.

(Note that Triberr recently did add a feature that allows you to change your settings so that you can choose which content to tweet. It was built for and optimized for auto-tweeting, though, and that’s the scenario I’m discussing.)

Triberr makes the quid-pro-quo arrangement explicit–and fun. These kinds of arrangements have been taking place informally for a long time.  Most of us active in content creation also share other people’s content on a regular basis, and we naturally end up with a specific set of bloggers or sources whose content we tend to read and share.

Reaching a Larger Audience

Of course, we all want our content to reach a larger audience. It’s one of the key reasons we participate in social media. It’s one of the reasons that we share other bloggers’ content.

Triberr touts the increased reach that bloggers get by joining tribes. Its tagline is “The Reach Multiplier!”. So, ultimately, like an advertising network, it’s about getting views and clicks. I have no doubt that using Triberr, or any quid-pro-quo system, will get my links in front of more people. The problem is two-fold:

  • Are my links getting in front of the right audience?
  • Am I short-changing my audience to do it?

Content Curation versus Content Inundation

As I said, I consider myself a content curator. I am selective about the posts that I share.  I take pride in reading each one before sharing it.  I share content that I think my particular audience, or the audience I’m trying to build, will find of value. I know they are flooded with content. I like to think they trust that what I share is going to be worth clicking on.

There are bloggers whose content I routinely share. Even with those bloggers, though, I don’t share every post. Even for the blogs I helped start (SMB Collective) or am a regular contributor to (Mark Schaefer’s Grow blog), I don’t share every post. I share those that are relevant to my audience and of high quality.

If a person auto-tweets every post from my blog, then they aren’t being selective. They aren’t choosing the posts relevant to their audience. I bet they don’t have a quality bar, either. Yes, I want my content to be shared. But what I really want is for my content to be shared by someone whose judgement his or her followers trust, and whose audience is the target audience I’m trying to reach.

We are inundated with information, links, content. The problem is just getting worse. When people auto-share every post from everyone in their network, they just add to the problem, inundating people with more links.

The Value of the Curator

That’s why I personally think that true curators are going to become more valuable. As we try to filter out all the junk and focus our time on consuming really good content, we will rely on selected tools and selected individuals.

Some websites and applications are trying to help surface the best content to those who are seeking it. There will be a role for these tools: Flipboard, Zite, Alltop, and the like. They will be locations for people to go to when they are in the consumption mode, actively looking for information on a topic or ready to sit down and do their daily reading.

More and more, though, people get their content primarily in small snippets, through friends and their online networks. They receive it in small chunks: a post on Facebook, or LinkedIn, or Twitter. They click because a particular headline grabs them.

There is evidence to suggest that we are becoming more selective about the pages we Like. Similarly, as content marketing and the content volume grows, we’ll become more selective about the people we follow. As a blogger or curator trying to build an audience, it will become even more important to pick your niche and create and share quality content about your selected topic. People will choose to follow and to really pay attention to the content shared by curators who have proved themselves trustworthy.

For that reason, and just my own personal integrity, I’m not willing to auto-tweet. I don’t want to be part of the problem, and I want to maintain my own reputation–because I think having a reputation as a good content curator is going to become more and more valuable.

What about you? Can automated syndication work, or does manual curation seem the better approach?

Neicole CrepeauAbout the author: Neicole Crepeau is a speaker, blogger, columnist at {grow}, and co-founder of SMB Collective. She works at Coherent Interactive on social media, website design, mobile apps, & marketing. Connect with Neicole on Twitter at @neicolec.

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119 Comments on "Why I’m Hesitant About Triberr"


executiveoasis
2 years 8 months ago

There is somethig that a lot of  people forget about Triberr. Manual sharing is the default. To put tribe members on “automatic shaing” it costs. You pay using bones that you have pre-purchased with REAL money. I doublt that most users will pay for something that they can do for free. It’s human nature. I notice that Tribe members take the time and share selectively.

PeterMasters
3 years 6 months ago

@DannyBrown@crumpyliciousblog My pleasure Danny!!

DannyBrown
3 years 6 months ago

@PeterMasters Thanks for jumping in and sharing that info with @crumpyliciousblog , Peter – will keep my eye on Subjot.

crumpyliciousblog
3 years 6 months ago

Thanks for the info. Will check those out and see if I can utilize them.=)

PeterMasters
3 years 6 months ago

@crumpyliciousblog I can see your point and fair comment, no one with a good sized following does or would even want to read every Tweet.

On that very subject, Subjot has come up with a great Twitter alternative, where you follow individuals particular subjects rather than just individuals. A simple but inspired idea and even thought it’s currently in private beta, it’s getting some good press.

Back to Triberr, I believe that triberr’s analytics show how many retweets people receive and therefore, if someone’s post never received any it would indicate the posts were no good, irrelevant or they were just in the wrong tribe.

To me Triberr is a great marketing tool.

Best regards, thanks for the post, Peter

crumpyliciousblog
3 years 7 months ago

After reading your post, it makes me wonder whether twitter needs curation at all because everyone I follow tweets and some of them are relevant to me and some I rather not care about. But it doesn’t really bother me that they tweet like that.

Danny Brown
3 years 8 months ago

Thanks, miss, gotta love having both sides of the coin and I love how Neicole presented it, and Dan/Dino’s willingness to answer. :)

Ari Herzog & Associates
3 years 8 months ago

I commented. And again. ;)

Danny Brown
3 years 8 months ago

HA!

Judy Dunn
3 years 8 months ago

This one really spoke to me, Danny. Addressed a lot of my concerns.

Danny Brown
3 years 8 months ago

Thanks miss! :)

Clay Morgan
3 years 8 months ago

Read the post and am pondering. When I should be working. Thanks Danny. ;-)

Erica McArthur Allison
3 years 8 months ago

Heading there to comment now!

Niall Harbison
3 years 9 months ago

I’m with you in that totally against these sorts of sites. Surely there has to be a bigger reason to be blogging rather than automatically tweeting other people’s blog posts in return for a tiny piece of traffic. What if I write a blog post saying “All Arabs should be shot” and you go ahead and RT that? Add in the fact that Twitter sends tiny amounts of traffic and you get why I think this is a such a bad idea.

Dino Dogan
3 years 9 months ago

Hi Niall,

That is a valid concern and one that we have addressed to the fullest.

Meredith
3 years 9 months ago

Thanks for the very informative article, Neicole. The company I work with, StoryCrawler, makes content curation pretty easy. It brings in information from across the Internet (blogs, news sites, social media, video, etc.) based on specific keywords the user wants to track. The user can then log into the dashboard and quickly curate the content for fast publication on any Internet or mobile platform. It’s the perfect combination of automation and human curation.

Neicole Crepeau
3 years 9 months ago

Another new app to check out. I’ll take a look. Thanks!

Gabrielle
3 years 9 months ago

Has anyone noticed that if you add a Twitter application like Twitpic or similar, that they have a clause in the agreement you have to click before giving you access that they’re allowed to post tweets on your behalf? I thought that was kinda scary…

Here’s what I read from one application:
“This application will be able to:

* Read Tweets from your timeline.
* See who you follow, and follow new people.
* Update your profile.
* Post Tweets on your behalf.

This application will not be able to:

* Access your private messages.
* See your Twitter password.”

Of course all heck would break loose if one of these applications ever posted on my behalf… and I’m sure anyone who agrees with this post. Still, it makes me wonder why they put that in the agreement in the first place.

Hand select posts myself, but schedule them to go out so as not to overwhelm anyone with what I’m reading at the moment, which is usually back to back posts.

3 years 9 months ago

Hey there guys,

Can I just say, Whoa! :)

Neicole, thank you again for such a great guest post, and for starting such an awesome discussion from both sides of the fence. This is what’s so great about blogging, and why I love the community here – points of view and counterpoints handled with respect and grace :)

And the Triberr guys for always being so responsive, and for acknowledging where they can improve – please stay like this even when you become monster-size huge! ;-)

Neicole Crepeau
3 years 9 months ago

Thank you, again, Danny for giving me the opportunity and providing such an awesome forum for discussion!

Sharel Omer
3 years 9 months ago

Whoo..

What an amazing post and important discussion….

I love it.. a lot of passion.. gr8 stuff :)

General speaking, when you look at relationship building on social media, then most users learn to filter the noise of mass/broadcast marketing…

I’m not a blogger, so i dont have a tribe.. but i’m in some tribes.. helping some bloggers i love to spread their word to my followers..

We learn that most twitter users don’t really read their feed, and if a person follow many people he gets a lot of tweets …

So…i see this discussion is more about the change in broadcast marketing and the importance of a more personal approach towards marketing in the social world…

Thank you for this discussion… i learned a lot from it.
Sharel

Karen Bice
3 years 9 months ago

Hi Neicole. Interesting post. I’m a fan of Triberr and maybe it’s because I’m not blogging (maybe someday soon) and I’m not in marketing. I really enjoyed seeing the different Triberr tweets for so many bloggers I wouldn’t have known about without Triberr. Now, I’m assuming because of the option to not auto post the tweets, I don’t see any Triberr related tweets. My stream feels really boring now, and most non-Triberr tweets being constantly shared are plain boring. I estimate at least 80% of tweeters could hold back 80% of their tweets in the interest of not boring their audience to death. I mean, how many times can a subject be regurgitated to death? Like I said, interesting post. :)

Neicole Crepeau
3 years 9 months ago

That’s interesting. Dino and Dan may want to take note. So, you’re seeing less Triberr tweets recently?

I’m with you on the 80%!

Karen Bice
3 years 9 months ago

Yes, I think it was last week that I noticed I wasn’t seeing Triberr tweets. But I check my twitter stream periodically throughout day, and only for a couple of minutes, and I don’t do a search for them, which maybe I should. I try to get on at night for an hour or so and I used to see Triberr tweets a lot then, which was a good time for me to check them out. Thanks, Neicole.

Dan Cristo
3 years 9 months ago

It used to be easy to search for triberr sent tweets, you just did a search for, “tribr.it” and you could see all the latest tweets. Maybe a month back we switched over the shortener to a handful of random ones so that we could use tribr.it for something else.

Lucky for you, we’re working on ways to bring that tweet goodness to the surface. So for example, if you wanted to see the most recent or most popular tweets on triberr you’ll soon be able to see them on the homepage, and if you want a specific tribe, just go to that tribe page.

Give us, say… two weeks, and that stuff should be in place.

Julia Erickson
3 years 9 months ago

Gee, you really hit a nerve with this one, Neicole! I’m going to give Triberr a go to see if it works for my audience. Like you, however, I read everything I repost for my followers, and feel great responsibility to only post things I value. So it’s going to be a grand experiment.

Dan Cristo
3 years 9 months ago

Looking forward to seeing you on Triberr, Julia. If you need anything at all you can mention @Triberr and we’ll come running.

Neicole Crepeau
3 years 9 months ago

Well, be sure and blog and tell us how it goes!

Jon Buscall
3 years 9 months ago

It sat uncomfortably with me at first but after I got invited to join a great Triberr I gave it a real shot and have been very happy with the results. Yes, there’s a lot more noise but I do think that it benefits my business site because it’s given me more comments, more visitors and more tweets. Now that can’t be a bad thing.

Automation is necessary here if you’re a business. For example, Buffer App is another brilliant service to help you connect, but this time through delayed (or buffered) tweets.

Because I don’t have so much reach in the US or Australia, it’s great to see my fellow Tribe sharing my posts in their regions. I hope the benefit is mutual.

Neicole Crepeau
3 years 9 months ago

Haven’t even heard of Buffer App. I’ll have to check it out. You certainly have a different set of issues, given your location and time difference.

Dan Cristo
3 years 9 months ago

Buffer is incredible. The guys who run that ship are quite engaging and are in much better physical shape than Dino and me.

Dino Dogan
3 years 9 months ago

Hi Jon,

That is very important for me to hear, and Im glad to hear you say it :-)

Giving Triberr a cursory glance might make it seam like an icky service, but one of the guiding and fundamental elements of building Triberr for me and Dan has been “is it on-code?”.

“On-code” is a phrase used by psychologists to describe the natural flow of things in an equilibrium state.

In other words, on-code is a checks and balances guidebook where the site’s mechanics are meant to be more-than-fair to all.

A good example of that are manual tweets.

If you have a guest post on another blog and you want to send it via your tribe, you can spend Bones to do so. However, part of the cost will go back to your tribesmates.

So, yes, you do get to use my twitter stream but you also compensate me in the form of Bones. These Bones can then be used by you to expand you tribe (for example).

Anyways…being on-code is a very important guiding principle for us and its what keeps us grounded and fair.

Thank you for noticing that :-)

Robert Dempsey
3 years 9 months ago

I must be the luckiest user of Triberr as, so far, Triberr has helped me:

1. Connect with more awesome people like Danny (here), Mark Schaefer at {grow}, Gini Dietrich, Kazia, and many others.
2. I’ve gotten business from new connections.
3. I am now a guest poster on {grow}
4. Increased my traffic – the numbers went up and stayed up, as did my RSS subscribers

So perhaps I have a very different view of it. Having said that…

I think we need to take into account how people use Twitter versus another site like Facebook. People spend hours of time on Facebook, so if you continued putting links in front of them they would either completely hate you or thank you for curing their boredom at work :) Twitter on the other hand is different.

I was introduced to 14blocks.com via a tweet from Gini. According to that app, the number of people that follow me on Twitter that are actually using the site varies wildly throughout the day. Also, while the average number of people a typical person on Twitter used to me 10, that number is now 100 (think that was from TechCrunch). If each of those people posts one tweet between when I looked last and when I got on, that could be 100 tweets!

So, what is the likelihood that a single person, once they get back on Twitter, when faced with 100 tweets, or even 50, are going to read everyone of them, click every link, read every post? Slim to none.

It could be argued that people pay more attention to some folks they follow than others, but I have yet to see that proven out.

Also, the tribes are what you make of them. I have one – Digital Marketing – where I vetted every single person in it before adding them. I ensure their content is a match not only for my followers but for the group. Only one person has been added within the months the tribe has been active (and Triberr has existed).

Dan Cristo
3 years 9 months ago

How do I +1 this comment? :)

Robert Dempsey
3 years 9 months ago

You just did Dan. :)

Neicole Crepeau
3 years 9 months ago

The tribe aspect definitely helps to allow you to filter content. I just want even more control. I’m only using Triberr with the Queue feature, personally. I would have to look for the data, but my impression from just monitoring the studies on Twitter is that most regular users, once they get beyond a certain number of people they are following, using lists or another method to primarily view only a subset of people. They are filtering in their own way.

Robert Dempsey
3 years 9 months ago

Does the manual mode solve that? It seems that then your queue would be from the people that you trust (hence they are in your tribes) and you only approve what you want. Granted then that defeats the use of Triberr as you can do that with a standard RSS reader.

So it sounds that you aren’t the target market for Triberr. That’s not good or bad, just how it is :)

Justice Wordlaw IV
3 years 9 months ago

Very interesting post as I have been using Triberr for awhile now and really enjoy the platform and the tribes that I am apart of. It seems that you are trying to say that if you auto tweet your posts or use services such as these then you are going to have a bad reputation? As I don’t think that is true at all. You can pick and choose the various tribes that you are apart of and build tribes so that your audience that you do cater to receives content that would be valuable to them. But, the idea is how can one person decide what is valuable content to another person though? You might primarily talk about one subject via your blog but another blogger might offer some information that can help some one else out in a division that you never talk about to help another person increase there income for there business or brand.

Neicole Crepeau
3 years 9 months ago

I’m not saying you’ll get a bad reputation, necessarily. But I am saying that I think it’s better to be known as a good source of information about x, y, and z. As I said to Dino in the earlier comments, sure you don’t know for certain that some of your followers might not be interested in a given post. But that means we all share everything, which definitely creates a problem of way too much noise.

Jane | Find All Answers
3 years 9 months ago

Neicole,

I am just with Michael. You can and have to do automation at a certain level on certain things you really do trust. I have a handful of blogs whose RSS has been fed to my Market Me suite. I don’t want to tweet those posts manually; I trust those bloggers for quality and I am sure my followers like that kind of posts.

You have to be careful though, when you select who comes in your tribe. You have to curate your tribe members very carefully. If you do so, then you don’t have to worry about automated tweeting.

Jane.

Neicole Crepeau
3 years 9 months ago

It’s all about your business, goals, and audience. If it works for you, that’s great. I have no problem with automation, per se. And I admit that I am probably particularly picky!

Amy Putkonen
3 years 9 months ago

Neicole,

I have a hard time commenting on sites that I don’t have anything of value to say. I just can’t do it even when I want to. I hate junk tweets. Sounds good in the beginning but in the end I think it might make my tweets more like just more junk to ignore. Noise. Thanks for writing.

Brandon
3 years 9 months ago

Neicole, I respect your opinion on the Triberr issue and curating aspects of sharing online. I do my best to filter what I share with my followers also, not only to keep their feeds from getting cluttered, but it allows varying levels of sharing. Some posts I will comment, retweet and RT with a message, others, I may comment but not share at all. Some days I find nothing relevant to anything (few and far between, but it happens)and move on.

I used Triberr a couple of months ago (prior to the latest round of updates) as a tool to help with my overall reach. Being new to the blogging world, I was skeptical, but it looked like a great way to help draw traffic to me and cross-level audiences. At the time, I found it bordering the spammy side. The system was not spreading the tweets out as I had expected them to and the formatting of the automated tweets, while concise and following commonly agreed upon formatting, just looked plain and impersonal. I destroyed my territory.

Since giving it a shot again, I have found that several tweaks were implemented and several of those issues have been solved. As for the curating, I do not think it hinders me much to use a tool like Triberr because of my sharing practices. I can still RT at a later time if I really appreciate the post.

I do not feel that I am cheating my followers by doing this any more than I would be by announcing a post via Networked Blogs, Hootsuite, or any other scheduling program. As long as my readers know that I do engage them and continue to read the content I share, then I think we still have a win-win, loving relationship.

Awesome post. Danny, as always, you impress me with your ability to provide conversation worthy content!

Neicole Crepeau
3 years 9 months ago

Hey, it sounds like Triberr with it’s newest features is working for you. That’s great. I fully intend to keep an eye on Triberr as it evolves–rapidly! I hope I’ll find it’s the right tool for me, too, before long. Right now, it’s not quite what I’m looking for, but I wouldn’t be surprised if I change my mind like Erica, eventually.

Dan Cristo
3 years 9 months ago

Hey Brandon,
Thanks for giving Triberr another shot.

Start-up’s have a lot of disadvantages (We can’t hire any help, we’re going to make a lot of mistakes, we develop features LIVE on the production environment, etc), but to our advantage, we’re agile, we’re passionate about what we’re building, and we care about the community.

As we continue to evolve, we’ll continue to help you keep that relationship with your followers authentic and engaging.

Brandon
3 years 9 months ago

Dan,

Oh, absolutely. I get it completely. Same with beginning bloggers such as myself. I can only ask so many questions before paying for workshops and books. I make mistakes all the time (especially on Twitter) but I keep trudging on.

The impressive thing is watching what people do after these mistakes. Do they learn from it and make things better? Do they ignore everything they’re told?

You guys are improving by leaps and bounds. I appreciate that. Funny thing is that there are many who do not understand the amount of work involved in making a better product, so they do not come back. I feel for you as a developer. :)

Saul Fleischman
3 years 9 months ago

The #Triberr team are extremely responsive and consider ideas, and so, we give them many and often. They are getting better and better – and the start was a great thing already.
As for any problems with sharing others’ posts to your Twitter feed, as a happy member of five Tribes, three bold statements for everyone to consider:
1. We are supposed to share in Twitter. You do it already, and so, even with the “auto” setting, up to one post/day to a twitter feed i not a huge burden.
2. You can set to “manual” – and delay approval/rejection of each and every blog tweet that would go to your account.
3. This is driving quality. That’s right, quality. My blog used to be seen by a few people every time I published. Thanks to Triberr, my reach is 407,000 and growing. 21 people share my posts, a few of them manual/most auto, but I always get approved, at least so far. Instant Twitter health, with all the mentions included, and the reactions and comments have grown greatly. The Google Analytics suggest 4X growth in the last four weeks, but what puts a mile on my face are the bonafide relationships that are developing between tribemembers.
Welcome the Triberr “curious” and even doubters to hit me in Twitter or SKYPE for ideas and incredible Triberr stories and help in working Triberr in a way that suits your style:
1. Selecting the best Tribe that will take you (knock yourself out; the majority will not – just as you are picky about your Twitter feed, we Tribal Chief will look at your blog content and Twitter stats and decide if you should fill what are, after all, limited spaces);
2. Controlling your .rss to limit what gets fed to your tribemembers’ Twitter accounts;
3. Collaborating with Triberr bloggers throughout the system

I love it, and am happy to give back.

Ari Herzog
3 years 9 months ago

I want someone to read and share what I write because they choose to do it. If someone wants to share my stuff on Triberr or Twitter or wherever, my hat’s off to the person. But I don’t need to be a member of that site for that person to share it.

Dan Cristo
3 years 9 months ago

I think we all have that attitude to some point.

Please don’t think of Triberr as some sort of, “I’ll share your stuff if you share my stuff”. That’s really not what we’re building here. That’s more of a TribePro mentality.

Instead, think of Triberr as, “Hey, I’m already an active member of a few online communities; commenting and sharing is something I do already on almost every post. Maybe Triberr can help save me some time”. If that’s your mentality, then you’ll get a lot out of Triberr, because we’re just taking your existing tribe and making it visible.

If you’re putting out content, even great content, but you’re not actively engaged in other online communities, then you’re not a part of a tribe anyway. Not that you “need” to have a tribe, but it sure does make blogging easier and more fun.

Ari Herzog
3 years 9 months ago

It sounds to me that Triberr is more about data and less about people. Keywords and links = data.

If someone is automatically tweeting a blog post title and a link without context or manual addenda, that is adding to the collection of data that Google indexes from Twitter, no?

When I see someone tweet a link, if there’s no reason added why that link is tweeted, I hit the reply button and ask for the reason. Would Triberr be the reason in those cases?

I follow people on Twitter for specific reasons, with the links they share never being factored. But that’s me. How does Triberr help?

Dino Dogan
3 years 9 months ago

Hi Ari,

In my case, the context is two fold.

I want to discover amazing new bloggers and put them on the fast track to recognition. My Anubis tribe is all about that.

The other context is this.

I approach Twitter curation at a human level. Not on per-post basis.

So when I tweet your stuff automagically, its because I know your work and I know what you do.

Why do hundreds of people retweet superstar bloggers without reading their stuff? Because they know what these guys do and whilst today’s post may not be useful to me, it may be useful to you.

Hope that makes sense. I promise, it makes perfect sense in my head :-)

Ari Herzog
3 years 9 months ago

Yes it makes perfect sense — which is why I won’t touch Triberr with a 20-foot pole. That is, as a person. If I was an organization wanting to be the go-to expert in a given subject area, I’d retweet anything automatically.

Neicole Crepeau
3 years 9 months ago

Personally, I have a problem with people retweeting the superstars posts without reading them, as well. Some of the superstars put out a lot of crap with a just a few gems, at least from my experience.

Dino Dogan
3 years 9 months ago

OMG how I agree with that. 100%.

Their content doesnt deserve a auto retweet (done manually :-) but why should they be the only ones that get it?

Triberr levels the playing field in that regard and allows small bloggers to experience the same thing, and quite possibly catch a large swath of readers in the process away from the superstars.

Yomar
3 years 9 months ago

I think both rationales have flaws.. Here’s WHY:

1. We assume that our followers are not already inundated with content.
2. We assume that they are not filtering and weeding out the junk (see above).
3. We assume that people are always in the mood for the same type of stuff (this is an issue with “niche marketing” as well).

There are more assumptions but you get the idea. There is no magic solution or “one size fits all” approach here. Really, do automatic (or automagic) solutions preclude warmth, your authenticity and personal touch? I think not. 8)

Yomar
3 years 9 months ago

…Whoops, this was supposed to be a reply in response to Neicole and Dino discussing the flaws in their respective logic. The point here is that there is no right or wrong but, certainly, what makes Triberr special is that Dino and Dan listen to people. You can’t say that about too many things these days… ;)

Neicole Crepeau
3 years 9 months ago

I agree with you, no right or wrong. We all have our own business needs and need different approaches.

Neicole Crepeau
3 years 9 months ago

You may want to check out Dan’s post, referenced above. Apparently, they are thinking about this.

Brendan Cosgrove
3 years 9 months ago

I’ve been watching Triberr for a while now, and I LOVE the idea of having a tool to allow people to solve the content curation problem. HOWEVER, it still feels a bit too much like a spam tool. While I respect the “goal” of the tool that Dino and Dan have created, the reality is that people looking to push out quantity are more likely to use Triberr than people looking to fill their twitter streams with QUALITY. I suppose its a bit like email automation tools. Most businesses need them, but especially the spammers, who abuse/over-use them. It would be interesting to see if there is a reputation management side of Triberr coming. A way for people to “mark” tribe members (especially under the concept of super tribes) based on their activity levels. Of course this only matters until we have computers that can solve the Quality questions inherent in content curation.

Dino Dogan
3 years 9 months ago

Hi Brendan,

So…whenever I bring someone new into my Anubis tribe (25 members and growing) their first reaction is “Of shit, people are actually now reading my posts, I better put out quality stuff”.

THAT has been the overwhelming response to joining tribes.

I thought, just like you, that the response would be “oh great, I can put out shitty content now that I have reach”, but its been the opposite.

#NiceSurprise :-)

Brendan Cosgrove
3 years 9 months ago

That’s fantastic. That sort of accountability is good to improve quality across the board. My fear is centered around the people that want reach and don’t give a rip about quality. I love how engaged you and Dan are with your product, and how you are actively working through the challenges and problems. For the record, I am a qualitatively and quantitatively poor blogger. Which is why the accountability you describe would be great for me, but my tribe wouldn’t get the benefit of my membership.

Dino Dogan
3 years 9 months ago

Lets speak to the issue of people who dont give a rip.

The Chief can always kick people our of his tribe. So if someone sucks, the can consult the tribe and banish the rotten apple from the tribe.

Conversely, if the Chief is the one who sucks, you are always free to leave that tribe. And you always have 3 tribes of your own to rule in the best way possible.

So, we’ve tried to make it as real-life as possible and with as many checks and balances as possible.

Brendan Cosgrove
3 years 9 months ago

Awesome. Well, after all this conversation, I may be swayed….except I don’t have an invite.

Neicole Crepeau
3 years 9 months ago

Well, glad to hear that! Where’s the joy in writing if you don’t believe you’re writing the best content you can? Personally, I’d rather not write at all then dish out garbage just for traffic.

Dan Cristo
3 years 9 months ago

Yeah, as Neicole mentioned we’re talking about various quality signals based on how humans react to contact, but that’s more on the curation side of things.

For a more direct response to reputation management and accountability, we’re in the process of building in Karma points. Basically a way for members of the site to rate and review other members. Sort of borrowing that personal reputation mechanism from eBay and bringing it over to Triberr to help with accountability.

Yomar
3 years 9 months ago

I was thinking along the lines of what you both (Brendan and Dan) have mentioned in this comment thread…

In order for this to work, there needs to be more incentive for people to promote and interact with other Tribesmen. We have to be honest with ourselves: most of us just want the extra reach but don’t particularly care for what our fellow Tribesmen are posting.. There are ways to fix that.

Right-fitting people into the perfect Tribes for them is one thing to look at. Some Tribes may be more about quantity but others may be more about quality. Getting our habits and goals in-sync makes sense so it’s not just about content but also context.

Perhaps Tribesmen can earn more “juice” when they create natural links to fellow Tribesmen content. This can be by way of writing full articles linking to source material or simply writing mini-reviews, summaries, or key take-away bullet point lists on Triberr.com – the possibilities are endless there!

Members with more “juice” have more weight when they vote content and Triberrs up/down. This sounds like what you guys have been bouncing around with regards to Karma points. In fact, Karma is brilliant: do onto others as you’d like done onto you.

There is a catch!

You have to implement systems that keep people honest. Encouraging some really connections and relationship building, alongside content curation, is what I’m suggesting. It’s easy to click “Like” or rate something but what does that really mean?

Perhaps a built-in review feature in the streams would make sense, with links to more details so as to not go all information-overloady in the summary screens. The reason I suggest this is because we may like someone’s style, subject matter, presentation, tone, or whatever.. But we may not like all those aspects.

For example, I tend to write very informative, easy-to-read articles but they tend to be lengthy and all-encompassing. That turns off people from participating because they either quit halfway through the read or feel they can’t add any value to what I already provided. Having simple slidebar and yes/no qualifiers to give content more context makes sense.

In addition, we should be able to tag content with overall categories and more specific keywords thereof. Perhaps those items themselve can be voted upon to give appropriate items more weight according to popularity, relevance, and significance. Choosing from a pool of standardized keywords will keep things more consistent on that end, too.. This is a MUST for the bigger buckets, your categories and other top-level data.

I have many more ideas but I won’t reveal trade secrets here.. Besides, I know I wrote another one of my novels. Sorry about that. ;)