American Express and Foursquare – So What?

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Over at Fast Company, there’s a post about the American Express partnership with Foursquare. While the announcement is interesting, the direction that Fast Company runs with the article is less so.

According to Fast Company, the AMEX/FourSquare deal “…might finally give us some hard evidence as to whether social media is a worthwhile investment for merchants and marketers.”

Ummm… riiiiigghht.

I’m not sure where Fast Company has – or hasn’t – been looking, but agencies, consultants and business owners have been proving the ROI (return on investment) for a while now.

The Easy Social Media Management Example

Lauren McMullen is the owner of Easy Social Media Management, a consultancy that helps small businesses understand social media and how it can help their bottom line. Her agency was recently involved in a book launch for an anthology called Align, Expand and Succeed – Shifting the Paradigm of Entrepreneurial Success.

The book featured 40 authors, and over a six-month period Lauren used the social networks of the authors and the publisher to build awareness around the impending publication. This included blogs, YouTube interviews, and article directory promotions.

Because of this, the book became an Amazon bestseller on the morning of launch, and held the number one position in the four categories it was targeted to.

The Willis eTech Ltd. Example

John Willis is the founder and owner of Willis eTech Ltd., a small business offering photography, video and websites for other small businesses based in Okanagan, BC.

While flying over the newly-opened Sparkling Hills resort in Vernon, BC, John took some pictures of the resort and uploaded them to his TwitPic account. He tweeted the owner of the area where Sparkling Hills had opened their resort, and was invited to contact them.

That led to a bunch of photography and media projects for John’s company, and his use of other social media platforms saw him become recognized as the go-to guy in his area for social media and how it can be used to drive business. He speaks at local Chamber of Commerce events as well as seminars, and trains businesses on how they can effectively use social media.

Why the AMEX / Foursquare Deal Isn’t All That

These are just two examples. If you want others, just type in “social media roi success stories” to Google and you’ll find just under 3,000 results. Now, that may not sound much in the grand scheme of things, especially when other Google searches often result in millions of examples.

But that’s more than likely to do with the fact that instead of writing about how the ROI of social media is real, most businesses and agencies are just getting on with proving it to their clients, as opposed to trying to show how great they are in public.

They’re making results happen every single day – which is why the Fast Company angle means less than they might have hoped for.

For instance, according to the article, one of the “big wins” with the deal is that Foursquare will “…help merchants foster customer loyalty.” By encouraging check-ins and rewards, and the ability to tie back into your AMEX card, it means more people will shop at your location.

Great stuff. Except for one major problem – you don’t have to be at a location to check in. You don’t have to physically be there to become a Mayor and reap the rewards for it (like a free meal, or a discount on your clothing, etc).

My house is about 5 miles away from my office. Yet, by not checking in anywhere when I leave the office, I can be at home and check into my office because of the way Foursquare caches my last check-in.

Think about that from the point of view of a restaurant owner. They decide to offer a free meal and drink to the Mayor of their restaurant. I see that, so start checking in, even though I’ve never been there before in my life. I become Mayor, get my free meal and drink, don’t pay a thing and leave.

I then get my friends to do the same, and between us we constantly force the restaurant owner to give us free meals and drinks. But we never go to that restaurant as paying customers.

So… where’s the loyalty building in that?

Until location-based services can actually lock you down somewhere and make it impossible for you to check in somewhere unless you’re there, you’re not going to build loyalty through offers. You will, however, lose the vendor money – and that doesn’t build loyalty or ROI.

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Bruce Serven
Bruce Serven

In other words, Fast Company is about as credible as the Elvis sightings in the weekly tabloids at your local supermarket.

Bruce Serven
Bruce Serven

In other words, Fast Company is about as credible as the Elvis sightings in the weekly tabloids at your local supermarket.

Danny Brown
Danny Brown

Haha, EXACTLY, Bruce - that was one of the biggest cons out there. :)

Bruce Serven
Bruce Serven

If there is a company that is an expert at gamed systems, it is surely Fast Company (see their Influencer Project, codenamed: Operation "spam the hell out of your network and be a whore for votes").

Bruce Serven
Bruce Serven

If there is a company that is an expert at gamed systems, it is surely Fast Company (see their Influencer Project, codenamed: Operation "spam the hell out of your network and be a whore for votes").

Janis La Couvée
Janis La Couvée

I have to read this post but am running now. The whole Foursquare thing has left me with "meh"!!!

Janis La Couvée
Janis La Couvée

I have to read this post but am running now. The whole Foursquare thing has left me with "meh"!!!

Mark Schaefer
Mark Schaefer

There are a lot of problems with Foursquare (post forhtcoming!) but chiefly they do not have enough rewards beyond electronic badges. Hopefully that is where the Amex deal is heading. Like all platforms, the key to success is to fight corruption, as you mention, but once you get past that, there has to be tangible value too. If Foursquare doesn't deliver more benefits, it will remain obscure.

Thanks for the tought-provoking post Danny!

Danny
Danny

It'll be interesting to see if AMEX actually brings any real value to the table. Discounts and rebates are fine, but do they show off Foursquare or will people think they're just getting a rebate from AMEX for using their card?

Definitely a positioning issue that Foursquare seems to still have, unfortunately.

Mark Schaefer
Mark Schaefer

There are a lot of problems with Foursquare (post forhtcoming!) but chiefly they do not have enough rewards beyond electronic badges. Hopefully that is where the Amex deal is heading. Like all platforms, the key to success is to fight corruption, as you mention, but once you get past that, there has to be tangible value too. If Foursquare doesn't deliver more benefits, it will remain obscure.

Thanks for the tought-provoking post Danny!

Mark Schaefer
Mark Schaefer

There are a lot of problems with Foursquare (post forhtcoming!) but chiefly they do not have enough rewards beyond electronic badges. Hopefully that is where the Amex deal is heading. Like all platforms, the key to success is to fight corruption, as you mention, but once you get past that, there has to be tangible value too. If Foursquare doesn't deliver more benefits, it will remain obscure. Thanks for the tought-provoking post Danny!

Danny
Danny

It'll be interesting to see if AMEX actually brings any real value to the table. Discounts and rebates are fine, but do they show off Foursquare or will people think they're just getting a rebate from AMEX for using their card? Definitely a positioning issue that Foursquare seems to still have, unfortunately.

leon Noone
leon Noone

G'Day Danny,
Social media: mocial speedia! It's still bloody marketing. I don't know who said it first, but the following statement is still true. "Nothing is so important as the proper execution of the fundamentals."

It should flash for 30 seconds on the screen of every web marketer each time they switch on their computer.

The 100th anniversary of the birth of David Ogilvy occurred last week. Seems that all the bright-eyed and bushy tailed social media marketers have never heard of him, let alone read his books.

I'm told repeatedly "But Leon, that was OK for print. The web and screens are different." May I remind your loyal readers Danny that "buy one get one free" still beats the pants off "50% off" or "two for the price of one" and that while red is OK as a spot colour, people wont read copy printed in red and how a black typeface on a blue background wont be read because of the high internal luminosity of blue and and and.....!

And while I'm ranting, remember the immortal words of Al Ries and Jack Trout: "Marketing occurs in the mind." Of course, that can't possibly be true any more. They wrote that in 1981.

But I'm only a consultant. I'm off to sell something to someone!

Make sure you have fun.

Regards

Leon

leon Noone
leon Noone

G'Day Danny,
Social media: mocial speedia! It's still bloody marketing. I don't know who said it first, but the following statement is still true. "Nothing is so important as the proper execution of the fundamentals."

It should flash for 30 seconds on the screen of every web marketer each time they switch on their computer.

The 100th anniversary of the birth of David Ogilvy occurred last week. Seems that all the bright-eyed and bushy tailed social media marketers have never heard of him, let alone read his books.

I'm told repeatedly "But Leon, that was OK for print. The web and screens are different." May I remind your loyal readers Danny that "buy one get one free" still beats the pants off "50% off" or "two for the price of one" and that while red is OK as a spot colour, people wont read copy printed in red and how a black typeface on a blue background wont be read because of the high internal luminosity of blue and and and.....!

And while I'm ranting, remember the immortal words of Al Ries and Jack Trout: "Marketing occurs in the mind." Of course, that can't possibly be true any more. They wrote that in 1981.

But I'm only a consultant. I'm off to sell something to someone!

Make sure you have fun.

Regards

Leon

Danny
Danny

David Ogilvy is, and continues to be, one of the smartest people ever born, mate. Funny how we can still learn so much today from something that was written so long ago, eh? ;-)

leon Noone
leon Noone

G'Day Danny, Social media: mocial speedia! It's still bloody marketing. I don't know who said it first, but the following statement is still true. "Nothing is so important as the proper execution of the fundamentals." It should flash for 30 seconds on the screen of every web marketer each time they switch on their computer. The 100th anniversary of the birth of David Ogilvy occurred last week. Seems that all the bright-eyed and bushy tailed social media marketers have never heard of him, let alone read his books. I'm told repeatedly "But Leon, that was OK for print. The web and screens are different." May I remind your loyal readers Danny that "buy one get one free" still beats the pants off "50% off" or "two for the price of one" and that while red is OK as a spot colour, people wont read copy printed in red and how a black typeface on a blue background wont be read because of the high internal luminosity of blue and and and.....! And while I'm ranting, remember the immortal words of Al Ries and Jack Trout: "Marketing occurs in the mind." Of course, that can't possibly be true any more. They wrote that in 1981. But I'm only a consultant. I'm off to sell something to someone! Make sure you have fun. Regards Leon

Danny
Danny

David Ogilvy is, and continues to be, one of the smartest people ever born, mate. Funny how we can still learn so much today from something that was written so long ago, eh? ;-)

Naomi Tapia
Naomi Tapia

I still don't understand why, with all of the technology that we have available, there couldn't be a way to really verify where people have/haven't been?

I agree with the consensus that this seems to be a lot of fluff and not much meat. Great post!

Danny
Danny

Maybe we should wear a big transmitter on our heads, Naomi? ;-)

Naomi Tapia
Naomi Tapia

Lol.... I know. I think that is what I was advocating there for a moment ;)

Naomi Tapia
Naomi Tapia

Lol.... I know. I think that is what I was advocating there for a moment ;)

Naomi Tapia
Naomi Tapia

I still don't understand why, with all of the technology that we have available, there couldn't be a way to really verify where people have/haven't been?

I agree with the consensus that this seems to be a lot of fluff and not much meat. Great post!

Naomi Tapia
Naomi Tapia

I still don't understand why, with all of the technology that we have available, there couldn't be a way to really verify where people have/haven't been? I agree with the consensus that this seems to be a lot of fluff and not much meat. Great post!

Danny
Danny

Maybe we should wear a big transmitter on our heads, Naomi? ;-)

Naomi Tapia
Naomi Tapia

Lol.... I know. I think that is what I was advocating there for a moment ;)

Steve Birkett
Steve Birkett

Though I agree with your overall point, Danny, that Fast Company's broad dismissal of other social media successes makes the piece questionable (who goes to Klout as an example for social ROI?!), I don't think it devalues the meaning of the partnership.

Foursquare is growing in stature and a significant link up to an established financial services organization lends a good deal of clout (sorry) to their standing. As Kennedy and Bill pointed out, the issue on Foursquare cheating can largely be resolved by structuring the special offer intelligently. Either associating the free item/mayorship with a purchase - as many offline coupon deals have done for years - or making the free item relatively low ticket, such as a free cup of coffee after 5 or 10 check ins. The latter could still fall prey to your scenario, but it's a fair amount of gaming to do for a free cup of java! The location sharing and visibility for the vendor would certainly be worth a minor loss. For the AMEX deals specifically, the rewards appear tied to a concrete, verifiable purchase, which resolves the gaming issue itself.

The other point on Google ROI success stories is actually more concerning, as finding under 3,000 examples was the biggest surprise in this piece. People aren't writing about their successes? I'd think the first thing a consultancy with a big win would do is share it via their testimonials page or blog, given the scepticism with which social media campaigns are currently viewed. Blogging gives us one of the easiest outlets to share stories of success, so perhaps it's the search terms in this case, rather than the lack of success?

All that said, if Fast Company believe this is the first chance to prove social media ROI, they have a lot more digging into the points raised here to prove it. Simply claiming something in their short, biased piece doesn't make it so. Thanks for getting my thinking cap on for a Saturday morning, Danny., have a good one!

Steve Birkett
Steve Birkett

Though I agree with your overall point, Danny, that Fast Company's broad dismissal of other social media successes makes the piece questionable (who goes to Klout as an example for social ROI?!), I don't think it devalues the meaning of the partnership.

Foursquare is growing in stature and a significant link up to an established financial services organization lends a good deal of clout (sorry) to their standing. As Kennedy and Bill pointed out, the issue on Foursquare cheating can largely be resolved by structuring the special offer intelligently. Either associating the free item/mayorship with a purchase - as many offline coupon deals have done for years - or making the free item relatively low ticket, such as a free cup of coffee after 5 or 10 check ins. The latter could still fall prey to your scenario, but it's a fair amount of gaming to do for a free cup of java! The location sharing and visibility for the vendor would certainly be worth a minor loss. For the AMEX deals specifically, the rewards appear tied to a concrete, verifiable purchase, which resolves the gaming issue itself.

The other point on Google ROI success stories is actually more concerning, as finding under 3,000 examples was the biggest surprise in this piece. People aren't writing about their successes? I'd think the first thing a consultancy with a big win would do is share it via their testimonials page or blog, given the scepticism with which social media campaigns are currently viewed. Blogging gives us one of the easiest outlets to share stories of success, so perhaps it's the search terms in this case, rather than the lack of success?

All that said, if Fast Company believe this is the first chance to prove social media ROI, they have a lot more digging into the points raised here to prove it. Simply claiming something in their short, biased piece doesn't make it so. Thanks for getting my thinking cap on for a Saturday morning, Danny., have a good one!

Danny
Danny

Hey there Steve,

Great points, mate, and it's how we're currently using LBS with clients (happy hours, tied into point-of-sale points and loyalty). I'm still not sold on the whole deal, but then I'm a cynic and always willing to be proven wrong. ;-)

They're probably writing about their successes, but not using terms "social media ROI" in their pieces. Which makes sense, since it'd be more about the client name and the campaign details.

Cheers, sir!

Steve Birkett
Steve Birkett

Though I agree with your overall point, Danny, that Fast Company's broad dismissal of other social media successes makes the piece questionable (who goes to Klout as an example for social ROI?!), I don't think it devalues the meaning of the partnership. Foursquare is growing in stature and a significant link up to an established financial services organization lends a good deal of clout (sorry) to their standing. As Kennedy and Bill pointed out, the issue on Foursquare cheating can largely be resolved by structuring the special offer intelligently. Either associating the free item/mayorship with a purchase - as many offline coupon deals have done for years - or making the free item relatively low ticket, such as a free cup of coffee after 5 or 10 check ins. The latter could still fall prey to your scenario, but it's a fair amount of gaming to do for a free cup of java! The location sharing and visibility for the vendor would certainly be worth a minor loss. For the AMEX deals specifically, the rewards appear tied to a concrete, verifiable purchase, which resolves the gaming issue itself. The other point on Google ROI success stories is actually more concerning, as finding under 3,000 examples was the biggest surprise in this piece. People aren't writing about their successes? I'd think the first thing a consultancy with a big win would do is share it via their testimonials page or blog, given the scepticism with which social media campaigns are currently viewed. Blogging gives us one of the easiest outlets to share stories of success, so perhaps it's the search terms in this case, rather than the lack of success? All that said, if Fast Company believe this is the first chance to prove social media ROI, they have a lot more digging into the points raised here to prove it. Simply claiming something in their short, biased piece doesn't make it so. Thanks for getting my thinking cap on for a Saturday morning, Danny., have a good one!

Danny
Danny

Hey there Steve, Great points, mate, and it's how we're currently using LBS with clients (happy hours, tied into point-of-sale points and loyalty). I'm still not sold on the whole deal, but then I'm a cynic and always willing to be proven wrong. ;-) They're probably writing about their successes, but not using terms "social media ROI" in their pieces. Which makes sense, since it'd be more about the client name and the campaign details. Cheers, sir!

Howie at Sky Pulse Media
Howie at Sky Pulse Media

My response is two fold because I have been hammering this over and over lately. Social is for people to people. And it works for People >>>>>> to Brands. But not the other way around. In fact it fails the other way around. Your example of the guy in BC proves this.

Amex calls itself the social card in their US commercials and have for months. Uhm. What? How? In what way? Total BS.

I don't this changing with Foursquare unless we get rebates or something from Amex. But then is this just a margin killer with Amex begging us to choose them over Visa/Mastercard? The article sounds like a Margin Killer. Who eats the $10 H&M or AMEX? That scenario is just electronic couponing and nothing more.

as for Fast Company I don't read them. They have poor quality reporting and tend to glamorize Entrepreneurship in the same way Mashable does Social Media. They are really People Magazine but for business.

Howie at Sky Pulse Media
Howie at Sky Pulse Media

My response is two fold because I have been hammering this over and over lately. Social is for people to people. And it works for People >>>>>> to Brands. But not the other way around. In fact it fails the other way around. Your example of the guy in BC proves this.

Amex calls itself the social card in their US commercials and have for months. Uhm. What? How? In what way? Total BS.

I don't this changing with Foursquare unless we get rebates or something from Amex. But then is this just a margin killer with Amex begging us to choose them over Visa/Mastercard? The article sounds like a Margin Killer. Who eats the $10 H&M or AMEX? That scenario is just electronic couponing and nothing more.

as for Fast Company I don't read them. They have poor quality reporting and tend to glamorize Entrepreneurship in the same way Mashable does Social Media. They are really People Magazine but for business.

Danny
Danny

I have to agree, mate - I'm really not seeing who benefits the most. It seems like a really half-hearted attempt at building loyalty, especially when there are companies doing it so much better already.

Howie at Sky Pulse Media
Howie at Sky Pulse Media

My response is two fold because I have been hammering this over and over lately. Social is for people to people. And it works for People >>>>>> to Brands. But not the other way around. In fact it fails the other way around. Your example of the guy in BC proves this. Amex calls itself the social card in their US commercials and have for months. Uhm. What? How? In what way? Total BS. I don't this changing with Foursquare unless we get rebates or something from Amex. But then is this just a margin killer with Amex begging us to choose them over Visa/Mastercard? The article sounds like a Margin Killer. Who eats the $10 H&M or AMEX? That scenario is just electronic couponing and nothing more. as for Fast Company I don't read them. They have poor quality reporting and tend to glamorize Entrepreneurship in the same way Mashable does Social Media. They are really People Magazine but for business.

Danny
Danny

I have to agree, mate - I'm really not seeing who benefits the most. It seems like a really half-hearted attempt at building loyalty, especially when there are companies doing it so much better already.

Jeff Esposito
Jeff Esposito

Thanks for posting this Danny. While I love the partnership for the two companies, this story is just the latest example of foolish journalism.

Fast Company should know better and to be honest this partnership means nothing for overall ROI in the social space and has little impact for eRetailers or small businesses who work from the home or use a communal office space model.

The 10M users on foursquare are also a small fraction of overall social media users and if we go by Fast Company's logic the only part that we can measure.

ROI in the social space was around long before this deal. Hopefully publications will stop using blanket terms and values for these customers and the space.

Danny
Danny

Cheers, mate, and agreed - it's the latest in some really sloppy pieces over at Fast Company.

Like you say, while it's not exactly a small amount, 10 million is just a snippet of the web and not exactly a great indicator of success (or not).

Cheers, sir!

Jeff Esposito
Jeff Esposito

Thanks for posting this Danny. While I love the partnership for the two companies, this story is just the latest example of foolish journalism.

Fast Company should know better and to be honest this partnership means nothing for overall ROI in the social space and has little impact for eRetailers or small businesses who work from the home or use a communal office space model.

The 10M users on foursquare are also a small fraction of overall social media users and if we go by Fast Company's logic the only part that we can measure.

ROI in the social space was around long before this deal. Hopefully publications will stop using blanket terms and values for these customers and the space.

Danny
Danny

Cheers, mate, and agreed - it's the latest in some really sloppy pieces over at Fast Company.

Like you say, while it's not exactly a small amount, 10 million is just a snippet of the web and not exactly a great indicator of success (or not).

Cheers, sir!

Jeff Esposito
Jeff Esposito

Thanks for posting this Danny. While I love the partnership for the two companies, this story is just the latest example of foolish journalism. Fast Company should know better and to be honest this partnership means nothing for overall ROI in the social space and has little impact for eRetailers or small businesses who work from the home or use a communal office space model. The 10M users on foursquare are also a small fraction of overall social media users and if we go by Fast Company's logic the only part that we can measure. ROI in the social space was around long before this deal. Hopefully publications will stop using blanket terms and values for these customers and the space.

Danny
Danny

Cheers, mate, and agreed - it's the latest in some really sloppy pieces over at Fast Company. Like you say, while it's not exactly a small amount, 10 million is just a snippet of the web and not exactly a great indicator of success (or not). Cheers, sir!

Robert Dempsey
Robert Dempsey

I agree with you here Danny - Foursquare is a game that can be gamed :P Aside from that, I'm not sure how many Amex users are running around checking into places on FourSquare. There once was a time when few people had Amex, but they weren't exactly the techies. Having said that I have an Amex and an iPhone with Foursquare. Either way I still don't see how this one deal "proves" the ROI of social media. Perhaps we need more people talking specific numbers. I have some I can put into a post :)

Danny
Danny

See, that's the thing mate (and I mentioned it to Kasey earlier in the comments).

Did AMEX audit their users? Are there more mobile AMEX users than desktop? Do they even know what Foursquare is?

I guess time will tell... ;-)

Robert Dempsey
Robert Dempsey

I agree with you here Danny - Foursquare is a game that can be gamed :P Aside from that, I'm not sure how many Amex users are running around checking into places on FourSquare. There once was a time when few people had Amex, but they weren't exactly the techies. Having said that I have an Amex and an iPhone with Foursquare. Either way I still don't see how this one deal "proves" the ROI of social media. Perhaps we need more people talking specific numbers. I have some I can put into a post :)

Danny
Danny

See, that's the thing mate (and I mentioned it to Kasey earlier in the comments). Did AMEX audit their users? Are there more mobile AMEX users than desktop? Do they even know what Foursquare is? I guess time will tell... ;-)

Brian Driggs
Brian Driggs

Frankly, I'm just waiting for someone to develop a tool to selectively block the display of updates in social streams not by user account, but by origin.

Foursquare/GetGlue are the Farmvilles/Mafiawars of Twitter. I don't care that you just became mayor of some hole-in-the-wall on the other side of the continent. I don't care who you ousted for it, either. And I sure as hell don't care that you got a virtual sticker of some sort for watching Dancing with the Stars. #hatehatehate

Even worse, though, is the idea that we're attempting to gamify debt. Maybe, if people (including businesses) were financially responsible and lived/operated within their means, the credit crunch wouldn't be an issue.

Ah, Fridays...

Brian Driggs
Brian Driggs

Frankly, I'm just waiting for someone to develop a tool to selectively block the display of updates in social streams not by user account, but by origin.

Foursquare/GetGlue are the Farmvilles/Mafiawars of Twitter. I don't care that you just became mayor of some hole-in-the-wall on the other side of the continent. I don't care who you ousted for it, either. And I sure as hell don't care that you got a virtual sticker of some sort for watching Dancing with the Stars. #hatehatehate

Even worse, though, is the idea that we're attempting to gamify debt. Maybe, if people (including businesses) were financially responsible and lived/operated within their means, the credit crunch wouldn't be an issue.

Ah, Fridays...

Danny
Danny

You know, that's a good point mate. I know we're all responsible for how we spend our money, but sometimes the encouragement (gaming, rewards, etc) means more people will get sucked into a debt they can't afford. Not good.

Brian Driggs
Brian Driggs

Exactly. And this touches on one of the fundamental issues I have with marketing/PR.

In this example, is Amex partnering with Foursquare in order to provide better service to their customers? If they are, I assure you it is nothing more than a pleasant side effect. This partnership is done expressly (pun) to encourage more use of credit cards and make both companies more money. The end.

"Business exists to make a profit." Look how well that's working out. The whole developed world is on the verge of insolvency. The US bailed out multiple industries ad being too big to fail. Now the EU is bailing out whole nations for the same reason. Meanwhile, countries like the US are simply creating money out of thin air - all to make sure the credit continues to flow.

Eventually, the working class stiffs are going to wake up, realize they no longer wish to be indentured to the corporate elite, walk on their financial obligations en masse, and no clever association with a hot social media property will make any difference at all.

Business should exist to make a difference.
When business operates credit/debt-free, focuses less on "goods" and more on "betters," and helps customers realize genuinely better standards of living, partnerships like this stand would do more good for everyone involved, instead of a scant few corporate elites.

So, like you said, "American Express and Foursquare... so what?" :)

Brian Driggs
Brian Driggs

Exactly. And this touches on one of the fundamental issues I have with marketing/PR.

In this example, is Amex partnering with Foursquare in order to provide better service to their customers? If they are, I assure you it is nothing more than a pleasant side effect. This partnership is done expressly (pun) to encourage more use of credit cards and make both companies more money. The end.

"Business exists to make a profit." Look how well that's working out. The whole developed world is on the verge of insolvency. The US bailed out multiple industries ad being too big to fail. Now the EU is bailing out whole nations for the same reason. Meanwhile, countries like the US are simply creating money out of thin air - all to make sure the credit continues to flow.

Eventually, the working class stiffs are going to wake up, realize they no longer wish to be indentured to the corporate elite, walk on their financial obligations en masse, and no clever association with a hot social media property will make any difference at all.

Business should exist to make a difference.
When business operates credit/debt-free, focuses less on "goods" and more on "betters," and helps customers realize genuinely better standards of living, partnerships like this stand would do more good for everyone involved, instead of a scant few corporate elites.

So, like you said, "American Express and Foursquare... so what?" :)


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