On Loving and Giving Up On Google in Equal Measure

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They say that, to be a great business, you should always leave your customer or user wondering what you’re going to do next.

I’d mostly buy into that, unless what you do next makes you appear to be both a wanky company as well as a cool one. Enter Google and their apparent goal to piss off and enthrall in equal measure.

For a company whose motto is “Don’t be evil”, it makes it doubly frustrating when they go against that and force your hand into doing exactly what they say. Or else.

The frustration is only compounded further, because then they come up with something so cool you love them all over again. Before we look at that, though, let’s start with the bad.

Google+ – You’re Stuck With It, Amigo

Over the weekend, I decided to stop using Google+. I’ve never really been enamoured with the service, truth be told, and I just found it to be another place that sucked my time up.

Not only that, but the amount of fanboy bias on there really got grating - it became worse than the Sega vs. Nintendo debates back in the 80′s. I almost wanted to ask some users if they wanted tissues and a dark room…

So, having made the decision to not use Google+ anymore, I went to my Android to delete the G+ app, since it’s the second-biggest battery suck on my phone. Except I couldn’t delete it – because Google won’t let you.

Instead, the very best I could do was disable it.

The problem was, it then affected other Google apps on my phone because of Google’s “You WILL be signed up as a G+ user on every Google platform you use, and counted as an active one at that, because we want to pretend we have more numbers than we do.”

The biggest casualty was the Gallery app, which refused to load at all. Enabling the Google+ app allowed Gallery to work again; disabling screwed up Gallery again. Which, considering one of the selling points of Android is easy sharing of your pictures across social networks, seems stupid on so many levels.

Google has already been criticized for its all-or-nothing mindset when it comes to tying you into their network of apps, with the only way to escape being the deletion of your complete Google account. Easier said than done, which Google knows and is playing to.

So, even though I pay for my phone and pay for its services, I can’t choose which apps I want to run (or not), because some of my other apps will be messed up if I dare turn off those from Google.

Thanks guys, awesome way to treat your customers.

Who Do You Love? Google, Sometimes

The ironic part of the negative experience highlighted above is that, often, Google gets it right in so many ways when it comes to the user experience.

A prime example is the What Do You Love? project.

Conceived by the creative minds over at Big Spaceship, What Do You Love? is a very cool content identification and curation experience, based on topics or keywords chosen by you.

Just like the main search page for Google, What Do You Love? is clean and simple, and looks very similar to the search landing page itself with some text and a big search bar.

The fun happens when you type in the keyword, brand or person you’re looking for.

wdyl baked beans

Instead of the normal search results, you get tabbed results for pretty much everything under the sun on baked beans:

  • Pictures
  • Alerts
  • Patents
  • 3D exploration
  • Popularity of baked beans on the web
  • Videos
  • Books
  • Translations
  • Google Maps of nearby baked beans (seriously!)
  • and much, much more.

It’s quite possibly one of the coolest concepts I’ve seen, and makes search incredibly fun. What it also does, though, is allow you to set up a research station and immediately get an overview of something you’re interested in.

While the What Do You Love? project is primarily a fun and cool way to bring a bunch of results together under one roof, the potential is much more.

Imagine using it to monitor trends, see visual representations of your brand or business, or simply understand how something works by seeing it in 3D. You can then take that information and plan a strategy around the results, or even just create magic of your own based on the wealth of information available to you.

The story behind What Do You Love? is pretty cool too.

Developed outside Google (though fully endorsed by Larry Page and Eric Schmidt), Big Spaceship was allowed to rip apart the Google Apps API to come up with the WDYL? concept and execution, without any inside interference from the Big G.

The Less You Control, The More We Respond

This is where Google frustrates so much. On the one hand, they’re trying to make you a prisoner of their network by baking their products into each other so much, one won’t work without the other.

On the other hand, you have something so amazingly cool like What Do You Love? that gives you everything you need from Google’s toolset, but doesn’t force you to use them if you don’t want to. And yet, by allowing this open path, you actually use something like WDYL? more than any other search option.

Notice the irony, Google?

I shouldn’t have to have Google+ active if I want to use my Android phone. I shouldn’t have to be an active user of Google+ if I just want to use Gmail, or share a video on YouTube.

Big Spaceship show you why the less control you place, the more a user will respond. The more response, the more use of a product – seems simple enough.

Would it really hurt to have this approach across your other platforms?

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Danny Brown is Chief Technologist at ArCompany and an award-winning marketer and blogger. His blog is recognized as the #1 marketing blog in the world by HubSpot. Danny is also co-author of Influence Marketing: How to Create, Manage and Measure Brand Influencers in Social Media Marketing.

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Ellie K
Ellie K like.author.displayName 1 Like

 @Danny Brown I'm sorry, you wrote this four months ago! But none of the comments touched on what I think is the really important part of your post. Preamble: I love most Google products/ services, try to remember to use Google+ (always enjoy myself when I do), am not a Facebook user. I agree with your observations re Google wanting to tie social with all their services, and agree that it isn't such a great idea, particularly as they grow their enterprise presence.

If it is free, I can't justify much complaining. But you, Danny, are an Android customer: "I pay for my phone and pay for its services". You shouldn't have a worse UX than you did prior to Google+. That isn't fair to someone who chooses to use for-fee Google services, as opposed to the many who don't.

Danny Brown
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 @EllieAsksWhy Thank you!!! :)

 

I completely get the "If you don't pay, then you're the product" mindset, and it's completely fair. But, like you say, if I'm paying for that liberty, then shouldn't there be the option of choosing exactly what you want to use versus being told what you have to?

 

Thanks, Ellie. :)

EllieAsksWhy
EllieAsksWhy

 @Danny Brown I'm sorry, you wrote this four months ago! But none of the comments touched on what I think is the really important part of your post. Preamble: I love most Google products/ services, try to remember to use Google+ (always enjoy myself when I do), am not a Facebook user. I agree with your observations re Google wanting to tie social with all their services, and agree that it isn't such a great idea, particularly as they grow their enterprise presence. If it is free, I can't justify much complaining. But you, Danny, are an Android customer: "I pay for my phone and pay for its services". You shouldn't have a worse UX than you did prior to Google+. That isn't fair to someone who chooses to use for-fee Google services, as opposed to the many who don't.

Danny Brown
Danny Brown

 @EllieAsksWhy Thank you!!! :)   I completely get the "If you don't pay, then you're the product" mindset, and it's completely fair. But, like you say, if I'm paying for that liberty, then shouldn't there be the option of choosing exactly what you want to use versus being told what you have to?   Thanks, Ellie. :)

Mother Theresa
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I'm not too thrilled about G+ yet either, and I like it even less now that I've discovered that if I want to link my blog to it, I'll have to use my real name to sign my posts.  It's not really a problem of people finding out who I am, but I like using my pseudonym for the blog, because it's more fun that way.  I also hate how search results are personalized when I'm logged into G+, I'm worried that I might miss out on information that Google doesn't think I'll be interested in, but what if I am?  Besides, for social networking, everyone is already on Facebook.  Why bother with G+?

Danny Brown
Danny Brown moderator

It does seem to be an issue for Google - sure, they keep spouting numbers, but how many are actual users versus how many they created because the person uses another Google product?

 

Like you say, many people are more than happy with Facebook and Google+ just doesn't offer anything significantly different or - more importantly - better to enforce a change.

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DannyBrown
DannyBrown

It does seem to be an issue for Google - sure, they keep spouting numbers, but how many are actual users versus how many they created because the person uses another Google product?   Like you say, many people are more than happy with Facebook and Google+ just doesn't offer anything significantly different or - more importantly - better to enforce a change.

DannyBrown
DannyBrown

@Frank_Strong Don't miss it in the slightest, sir :)

HowellMarketing
HowellMarketing

love reading about you in #ReturnOnInfluence by @markwschaefer ;)) @DannyBrown

DannyBrown
DannyBrown

@HowellMarketing Uh oh

DannyBrown
DannyBrown

@HowellMarketing Alrighty, office and coffee beckons - have a wonderful day miss, and chat soon :)

DannyBrown
DannyBrown

@HowellMarketing Well thank you doubly, miss - poopy diapers help keep perspective. ;) And good folks like you, too. #thx

HowellMarketing
HowellMarketing

@DannyBrown humility is one of the greatest virtues! #youGotIt

DannyBrown
DannyBrown

@HowellMarketing I'm probably wrong person to speak to re. the influence question. ;) But thank you, though!

DannyBrown
DannyBrown

@Frank_Strong Don't miss it in the slightest, sir :)

HowellMarketing
HowellMarketing

love reading about you in #ReturnOnInfluence by @markwschaefer ;)) @DannyBrown

DannyBrown
DannyBrown

@HowellMarketing Uh oh

DannyBrown
DannyBrown

@HowellMarketing Alrighty, office and coffee beckons - have a wonderful day miss, and chat soon :)

DannyBrown
DannyBrown

@HowellMarketing Well thank you doubly, miss - poopy diapers help keep perspective. ;) And good folks like you, too. #thx

HowellMarketing
HowellMarketing

@DannyBrown humility is one of the greatest virtues! #youGotIt

DannyBrown
DannyBrown

@HowellMarketing I'm probably wrong person to speak to re. the influence question. ;) But thank you, though!

DannyBrown
DannyBrown

@AmyMccTobin Better get these premium webinars sold while the going's still good! :)

AmyMccTobin
AmyMccTobin

@DannyBrown if anyone actually pays for one now, they're nuts. I, of course, paid for mine in the early days;)

DannyBrown
DannyBrown

@AmyMccTobin True. And you got at least 1 business tip from it:)

DannyBrown
DannyBrown

@AmyMccTobin Haha, well played miss :)

AmyMccTobin
AmyMccTobin

@DannyBrown what was that? Not to pay for lessons on an unproven product?

DannyBrown
DannyBrown

@AmyMccTobin Better get these premium webinars sold while the going's still good! :)

AmyMccTobin
AmyMccTobin

@DannyBrown if anyone actually pays for one now, they're nuts. I, of course, paid for mine in the early days;)

DannyBrown
DannyBrown

@AmyMccTobin True. And you got at least 1 business tip from it:)

DannyBrown
DannyBrown

@AmyMccTobin Haha, well played miss :)

AmyMccTobin
AmyMccTobin

@DannyBrown what was that? Not to pay for lessons on an unproven product?

penneyfox
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Jumping on the bandwagon here ... I never did see the benefit of using Google+ either. Why does it always feel like its not OK until Danny says it? It's like we're all thinking it and you just said it out loud. 

 

Matter of fact, my partner and I just yesterday decided to drop Google+ from our social media workshops. And guess what we're replacing it with - your new favorite program .... Pinterest! I going to make the prediction that it'll be the big three for all the major brands - Facebook, Twitter and Pinterest

Mark Longbottom
Mark Longbottom

 @penneyfox "I going to make the prediction that it'll be the big three for all the major brands - Facebook, Twitter and Pinterest"Why not.  How to outsmart marketers in the 21st century by being where people are talking not where business wants you to be. Unlike like the latter part of the 20th century it can be done, we're not in a world led by marketers and advertisers gaining no ROI yet still saying it works. What you will find is something  happening naturally on Pinterest and something waiting to happen on G+.

wagnerwrites
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 @penneyfox This gets even better. I am a little late to the Pinterest bandwagon, after much skepticism, and am just coming to really enjoy it. So I'm happy to read that you are headed in this direction. So much wisdom in these comments! Danny is lucky to have such a smart and plain-speaking audience. 

penneyfox
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 @wagnerwrites I realized that Pinterest had hit it big when I saw a commercial that had the graphic P on their ad right next to their graphic FB image. I have yet to see a major brand put a G+ on their TV ad.

 

Personally I love Pinterest - the simplicity is enough to keep me coming back. I mean what's up with the circle on G+? I always figured that it was like my lists on twitter but it was so confusing when I first signed on to the program that I literally just gave up.

 

And then let's take it a step further in the fact that I co-teach a workshop about that program and it still hasn't convinced me to spend more time in there. Danny was so spot on with this post.

Danny Brown
Danny Brown moderator like.author.displayName 1 Like

 @penneyfox Oh, you don't ever want to follow my lead, miss - I told McCain he was a certainty because he wasn't worrying about social media like Obama was. ;-)

 

That's quite the move, to drop G+ and replace with Pinterest - goes against what all the gurus are saying, and you know how much we should do what they tell us to, right? Be interested to hear how that goes, Penney!

penneyfox
penneyfox like.author.displayName 1 Like

 @DannyBrown That McCain and Obama comment totally cracked me up! I'm a political junkie so that really just hit home with me :)

 

We actually decided to drop the G+ because we had the same conversation that you're having here. We're not closing our accounts but neither of us have really used it, seen any benefit from it or think its a good use of time for small business owners (our workshops focus on social media uses for small business).

 

The Pinterest thing came up because of my obsession with the program and the fact that I've been doing a case study/blogging about it. The fact that Pinterest gets more traffic then Linkedin, YouTube and Google+ combined is enough for us to take notice and share this with our workshop folks.

penneyfox
penneyfox

Jumping on the bandwagon here ... I never did see the benefit of using Google+ either. Why does it always feel like its not OK until Danny says it? It's like we're all thinking it and you just said it out loud.    Matter of fact, my partner and I just yesterday decided to drop Google+ from our social media workshops. And guess what we're replacing it with - your new favorite program .... Pinterest! I going to make the prediction that it'll be the big three for all the major brands - Facebook, Twitter and Pinterest

Mark Longbottom
Mark Longbottom

 @penneyfox "I going to make the prediction that it'll be the big three for all the major brands - Facebook, Twitter and Pinterest"Why not.  How to outsmart marketers in the 21st century by being where people are talking not where business wants you to be. Unlike like the latter part of the 20th century it can be done, we're not in a world led by marketers and advertisers gaining no ROI yet still saying it works. What you will find is something  happening naturally on Pinterest and something waiting to happen on G+.

Mark Longbottom
Mark Longbottom

 @penneyfox "I going to make the prediction that it'll be the big three for all the major brands - Facebook, Twitter and Pinterest"Why not.  How to outsmart marketers in the 21st century by being where people tare and people talk not where business wants you to be. Unlike like the latter part of te 20th century it can be done, we're not in a world led by marketers and advertisers gaining no ROI on  what they do and yet still being  able to call the shots.What you will find is something  happening naturally on Pinterest and something waiting to happen on G+.

wagnerwrites
wagnerwrites

 @penneyfox This gets even better. I am a little late to the Pinterest bandwagon, after much skepticism, and am just coming to really enjoy it. So I'm happy to read that you are headed in this direction. So much wisdom in these comments! Danny is lucky to have such a smart and plain-speaking audience. 

penneyfox
penneyfox

 @wagnerwrites I realized that Pinterest had hit it big when I saw a commercial that had the graphic P on their ad right next to their graphic FB image. I have yet to see a major brand put a G+ on their TV ad.   Personally I love Pinterest - the simplicity is enough to keep me coming back. I mean what's up with the circle on G+? I always figured that it was like my lists on twitter but it was so confusing when I first signed on to the program that I literally just gave up.   And then let's take it a step further in the fact that I co-teach a workshop about that program and it still hasn't convinced me to spend more time in there. Danny was so spot on with this post.

DannyBrown
DannyBrown

 @penneyfox Oh, you don't ever want to follow my lead, miss - I told McCain he was a certainty because he wasn't worrying about social media like Obama was. ;-)   That's quite the move, to drop G+ and replace with Pinterest - goes against what all the gurus are saying, and you know how much we should do what they tell us to, right? Be interested to hear how that goes, Penney!

penneyfox
penneyfox

 @DannyBrown That McCain and Obama comment totally cracked me up! I'm a political junkie so that really just hit home with me :)   We actually decided to drop the G+ because we had the same conversation that you're having here. We're not closing our accounts but neither of us have really used it, seen any benefit from it or think its a good use of time for small business owners (our workshops focus on social media uses for small business).   The Pinterest thing came up because of my obsession with the program and the fact that I've been doing a case study/blogging about it. The fact that Pinterest gets more traffic then Linkedin, YouTube and Google+ combined is enough for us to take notice and share this with our workshop folks.

Lori
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Wow Danny - I love What Do You Love? Did you search for your name there - I couldn't resist ;-)

I'm with you on G+ being a time-sucker. I +1 some blog posts and share them there but I don't spend any time there reading.[what's wrong with this picture?] So much time wasted before I made that decision!

I do LOVE their Hangouts though and do them every two weeks with LFI people (you should join us!!) If they only created the Hangouts, they'd have done enough for me!

I haven't been commenting here in a while, but I do love to read your thoughts Danny.

Lori

 

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Danny Brown
Danny Brown moderator

 @Lori I did - and got pretty much the results I thought would appear, the Detroit rapper that shares my name. :)

 

The Hangouts I've participated in have been fun, and have been the only real things that I found G+ to have got right from the start (with the exception of some of the lag). But, yeah, too little to keep me involved. Ah well...

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Lori
Lori

Wow Danny - I love What Do You Love? Did you search for your name there - I couldn't resist ;-) I'm with you on G+ being a time-sucker. I +1 some blog posts and share them there but I don't spend any time there reading.[what's wrong with this picture?] So much time wasted before I made that decision! I do LOVE their Hangouts though and do them every two weeks with LFI people (you should join us!!) If they only created the Hangouts, they'd have done enough for me! I haven't been commenting here in a while, but I do love to read your thoughts Danny. Lori  

DannyBrown
DannyBrown

 @Lori I did - and got pretty much the results I thought would appear, the Detroit rapper that shares my name. :)   The Hangouts I've participated in have been fun, and have been the only real things that I found G+ to have got right from the start (with the exception of some of the lag). But, yeah, too little to keep me involved. Ah well...


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