State of Independence

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Years ago I worked in retail on both sides. I started out working for an electrical goods chain store, then moved onto a smaller local one.

Both jobs were great (at least for me), because they satisfied the tech geek in me. Surrounded by home theater kits and massive TV’s? Sign me up!

But as much as I loved working at the big chain store, it never felt fulfilling.

We had to pretty much stick to a sales script and only if we were lucky could we occasionally offer our own take.

We weren’t encouraged to be ourselves.

Same went for special promotions. If a brand was paying to be highlighted that month, you had to sell toward that brand, even if another product was clearly the better one for the customer. It was snake oil salesmen tactics at their worst.

Jump to the little store, however, and the difference was palpable. You actually talked with your customers; asked what they wanted; offered your advice; agreed on essentials versus luxuries; and built an understanding.

Most of all, you were talking as if you were the customer.

No BS; no sales crap; no false advertising. Just simple customer-to-customer selling. And it worked. And continues to do so today.

Think about it. When you last went to a record store, or DVD store, or video games store that belonged to a chain, did you come away with just a purchase or a transaction? Because there is a difference.

Did you feel that you had bought your purchase yourself, or had bought it because it was sold to you? And I don’t mean because the salesperson picked it up and showed you what was on sale; I mean it was really sold to you.

The Indie Effect

From my experiences, independent retailers score every time over the chain stores. Sure, you get the occasional bright spark at a major retailer who lets their passion shine through. But generally, it’s just a job to them.

Indie retailers, on the other hand, love what they’re doing. They live the atmosphere that the small store brings. They know customers by name. They know the difference between Product A and Product B because they use it and learn about it, and not because they’ve read some manufacturer spiel. Then they pass that learning on.

Sure, the major stores might get the big deals from the manufacturers, but as the collapse of some of the big brands in business show, it’s not always about the best deals. At least, not price-wise.

Instead, a lot of the success is coming from the little independent guys jumping in and making people know about their service. By talking to them. By listening to what their customers want. By being the customer.

Sound familiar?

Be an Independent Retailer

Social media. Marketing. PR. Advertising. Customer service. Business deals. Business building. Branding. Unbranding.

Everything you do day in, day out – are you being a major retailer or are you being the independent retailer? Are you saying and doing what all your competitors are doing or are you doing what you’redoing?

There’s a big difference in approach and sales time is fast approaching. So. What are you?

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Danny Brown is Chief Technologist at ArCompany and an award-winning marketer and blogger. His blog is recognized as the #1 marketing blog in the world by HubSpot. Danny is also co-author of Influence Marketing: How to Create, Manage and Measure Brand Influencers in Social Media Marketing.

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Steven Hourston
Steven Hourston

Hi Danny, thanks for writing about a subject dear to my heart.

 

I used to work as a "drug-dealer" in Boots the Chemist's, a large Pharmacy retailer in the UK. Swinging off on a tangent, retailing also offers brilliant lessons for websites. Retailers win more sales when they:

 

- give customers a reason to enter the shop (website headline and images)

- promote their best offers with high impact displays (above the fold banners and promotions)

- make it easy for customers to shop the store (links and navigation)

- offer the informed, enthusiastic service that Danny mentions that helps customers to make an informed choice (videos, live-chat, bullets)

- make it easy and quick to pay (ditto on a website)

- quickly respond to customer feedback (check your analytics)

 

Best of all, retailers can quickly test a promotion, check the sales and then test another and keep the winner. We can do the same with our website split tests. I reckon my years in busy retailing was the best possible training ground for working online.

 

Steven Hourston
Steven Hourston

Hi Danny, thanks for writing about a subject dear to my heart.   I used to work as a "drug-dealer" in Boots the Chemist's, a large Pharmacy retailer in the UK. Swinging off on a tangent, retailing also offers brilliant lessons for websites. Retailers win more sales when they:   - give customers a reason to enter the shop (website headline and images) - promote their best offers with high impact displays (above the fold banners and promotions) - make it easy for customers to shop the store (links and navigation) - offer the informed, enthusiastic service that Danny mentions that helps customers to make an informed choice (videos, live-chat, bullets) - make it easy and quick to pay (ditto on a website) - quickly respond to customer feedback (check your analytics)   Best of all, retailers can quickly test a promotion, check the sales and then test another and keep the winner. We can do the same with our website split tests. I reckon my years in busy retailing was the best possible training ground for working online.  

JenFongSpeaks
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This is EXACTLY why I love servicing the direct selling industry. That sales consultant? They've personally used the products they offer, and they share their own opinions on them based on their own experiences. They only represent the brand because they love the line. And they can match YOUR needs to a product than any big box store employee will ever be able to do. You're right, there is a difference. And I'm a big fan of going independent for that reason.

 

Great piece, Danny!

Danny Brown
Danny Brown moderator

 @JenFongSpeaks I remember getting a call from a bank once, where the person on the other end was clearly a student making ends meet for their schooling (nothing wrong with that at all).

 

She was trying to sell me a second mortgage for whatever needs i had to use it. I asked if she had a mortgage, and she replied no. So I asked her if she knew the dangers of second mortgages, and she replied no. 

 

I then emailed the bank to say it wasn't fair to put inexperienced folks on a call where peoples' financial lives are at stake when the person calling has never experience the product they're talking about.

 

A roundabout way to say, hell yeah, miss! :)

JenFongSpeaks
JenFongSpeaks

This is EXACTLY why I love servicing the direct selling industry. That sales consultant? They've personally used the products they offer, and they share their own opinions on them based on their own experiences. They only represent the brand because they love the line. And they can match YOUR needs to a product than any big box store employee will ever be able to do. You're right, there is a difference. And I'm a big fan of going independent for that reason.   Great piece, Danny!

DannyBrown
DannyBrown

 @JenFongSpeaks I remember getting a call from a bank once, where the person on the other end was clearly a student making ends meet for their schooling (nothing wrong with that at all).   She was trying to sell me a second mortgage for whatever needs i had to use it. I asked if she had a mortgage, and she replied no. So I asked her if she knew the dangers of second mortgages, and she replied no.    I then emailed the bank to say it wasn't fair to put inexperienced folks on a call where peoples' financial lives are at stake when the person calling has never experience the product they're talking about.   A roundabout way to say, hell yeah, miss! :)

Ryan Hanley
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Danny,

 

It's passion... That's what it comes downs to.  People react to passion.  The stirring of emotion that a passionate person instills within them.  Even if it's buying a simple radio a great salesperson harnesses their own inner passion and is able to transfer that energy to the Buyer.

 

Passion isn't the only piece essential to small business success but's it's a pretty big part.

 

Thanks brother.

 

Ryan H.

Danny Brown
Danny Brown moderator

 @Ryan Hanley Amen to that, sir. I once got invited to a talk about ballet and the art of telling your story through the movements. I hate ballet with a vengeance, but was trying to impress a girl at the time.

 

Turns out, it was one of the most passionate presentations I've even been to. I'm still not a fan of ballet, but i sure as hell appreciate the artists behind it more.

 

Cheers, mate!

Ryan Hanley
Ryan Hanley

Danny,   It's passion... That's what it comes downs to.  People react to passion.  The stirring of emotion that a passionate person instills within them.  Even if it's buying a simple radio a great salesperson harnesses their own inner passion and is able to transfer that energy to the Buyer.   Passion isn't the only piece essential to small business success but's it's a pretty big part.   Thanks brother.   Ryan H.

DannyBrown
DannyBrown

 @Ryan Hanley Amen to that, sir. I once got invited to a talk about ballet and the art of telling your story through the movements. I hate ballet with a vengeance, but was trying to impress a girl at the time.   Turns out, it was one of the most passionate presentations I've even been to. I'm still not a fan of ballet, but i sure as hell appreciate the artists behind it more.   Cheers, mate!

Howie Goldfarb
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When Starbucks was invading the world and at their peak there was a lot of biz trade pubs wondering what was going to happen to the independent coffee shops. Well a study was done and it found that sales revenues at Indy Coffee Shops actually rose when Starbucks moved in to compete. The beer industry is getting like this. I used to shun most US Domestic Beer for Imports. But now the Imports are no different than budweiser or coors. Yes that includes Molsons and Labbatts I mean they are all owned by one of the big 3 or 4 brewers that account for 80% of sales. Now 80% of my business goes to the small microbreweries who make way better beer.

Danny Brown
Danny Brown moderator

 @HowieSPM I hear you, mate.

 

Last week, I took my colleagues on the @steamwhistle beer tour in downtown Toronto. It was fascinating hearing about their history and method, and how their beer truly separates itself in a crowded market.

 

Now? I'll probably only drink @steamwhistle , or at they very least make it my main beer. And that comes from passion, as @Ryan Hanley mentions, as well as caring. You can't buy that kind of marking or advertising.

HowieSPM
HowieSPM

When Starbucks was invading the world and at their peak there was a lot of biz trade pubs wondering what was going to happen to the independent coffee shops. Well a study was done and it found that sales revenues at Indy Coffee Shops actually rose when Starbucks moved in to compete. The beer industry is getting like this. I used to shun most US Domestic Beer for Imports. But now the Imports are no different than budweiser or coors. Yes that includes Molsons and Labbatts I mean they are all owned by one of the big 3 or 4 brewers that account for 80% of sales. Now 80% of my business goes to the small microbreweries who make way better beer.

DannyBrown
DannyBrown

 @HowieSPM I hear you, mate.   Last week, I took my colleagues on the steamwhistle beer tour in downtown Toronto. It was fascinating hearing about their history and method, and how their beer truly separates itself in a crowded market.   Now? I'll probably only drink steamwhistle , or at they very least make it my main beer. And that comes from passion, as @Ryan Hanley mentions, as well as caring. You can't buy that kind of marking or advertising.

Andrea T.H.W.
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I surely want to be an indie but probably it seems I'm a kind of big chain. Or better I haven't yet found the right approach but sooner or later it will come out. The only thing big chains have is choice and prices but when you have to change something five times because it doesn't work and it's made overseas or across the border in slavery like factories small stores get a better light.

 

Also deep inside us everyone with a bit of soul prefers David over Goliath right?

Andrea T.H.W.
Andrea T.H.W.

I surely want to be an indie but probably it seems I'm a kind of big chain. Or better I haven't yet found the right approach but sooner or later it will come out. The only thing big chains have is choice and prices but when you have to change something five times because it doesn't work and it's made overseas or across the border in slavery like factories small stores get a better light.   Also deep inside us everyone with a bit of soul prefers David over Goliath right?

DannyBrown
DannyBrown

 @Andrea T. H. W. See, sometimes I wonder if the amount of choice really benefits the chains, Andrea. I go to my local Costco and I get overrun by the choice. Same with Sears, etc.   But go to the store where they have 2-3 brands to choose from and the advice that I need on what separates these brands? Works for me. :)

Leon
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G'Day Danny,

I guess I've always been a bit of an Indie, even when I was Personnel Manager for one of Australia'a largest retail chains. But the bigger question interest me.

In this country, we seem to have the notion that retail needs a shopfront of one kind or another. I'm inclined to believe that this is a very limiting viewpoint.

I'll probably upset some people when I say that most businesses, with or without a shopfront, have a retail aspect. For many years, my major client has been a domestic maintenance plumbing company. We've had wonderful success by taking a retail perspective.

It's just a thought from the Curmudgeon's Cupboard.

 

Have fun

 

Best Wishes

Leon

Howie Goldfarb
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 @Leon of course you are Indie. You are what 12 hour time difference away and you come to harrass @DannyBrown and @ginidietrich quite often. So you are pure Punk Rock...the real stuff from back in the day not the mass produced crap the kids listen to today. 8)

Leon
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 @HowieSPM  @DannyBrown  @ginidietrich Howie, How could you? Punk Rock!! What a heinous insult. That's no way to treat your South Pacific ally. I'm Armstrong, Morton, Ellington, Hines, Hawkins, Sinatra and Jo Stafford.

 

Punk Rock!! Oh...... how could you! Leadbelly's more my scene: even Broonzy. Punk rock! I'm off to the desert to pray for you. I'm in a sentimental mood

 

Regards

Leon

 

 

Danny Brown
Danny Brown moderator

 @Leon I love the example of the shopfront, mate. Many social media "gurus" should read your comment and take note, and then reconsider their "everyone needs to be on social media" mantra.

 

Um... no, they don't. Everybody needs to be where it makes sense for their business and, for many, social media is not that place.

 

Bah.

Leon
Leon

G'Day Danny, I guess I've always been a bit of an Indie, even when I was Personnel Manager for one of Australia'a largest retail chains. But the bigger question interest me. In this country, we seem to have the notion that retail needs a shopfront of one kind or another. I'm inclined to believe that this is a very limiting viewpoint. I'll probably upset some people when I say that most businesses, with or without a shopfront, have a retail aspect. For many years, my major client has been a domestic maintenance plumbing company. We've had wonderful success by taking a retail perspective. It's just a thought from the Curmudgeon's Cupboard.   Have fun   Best Wishes Leon

HowieSPM
HowieSPM

 @Leon of course you are Indie. You are what 12 hour time difference away and you come to harrass @DannyBrown and @ginidietrich quite often. So you are pure Punk Rock...the real stuff from back in the day not the mass produced crap the kids listen to today. 8)

Leon
Leon

 @HowieSPM  @DannyBrown  @ginidietrich Howie, How could you? Punk Rock!! What a heinous insult. That's no way to treat your South Pacific ally. I'm Armstrong, Morton, Ellington, Hines, Hawkins, Sinatra and Jo Stafford.   Punk Rock!! Oh...... how could you! Leadbelly's more my scene: even Broonzy. Punk rock! I'm off to the desert to pray for you. I'm in a sentimental mood   Regards Leon    

DannyBrown
DannyBrown

 @Leon  @HowieSPM  @ginidietrich And this is why Leon rules. :)

giftbasketvillascom
giftbasketvillascom

 @HowieSPM  @Leon  @DannyBrown  @ginidietrich  WTH?

DannyBrown
DannyBrown

 @giftbasketvillascom  @HowieSPM  @Leon  @ginidietrich Howie's an alien - we usually let his comments ride and just smile apologetically. ;-)

DannyBrown
DannyBrown

 @Leon I love the example of the shopfront, mate. Many social media "gurus" should read your comment and take note, and then reconsider their "everyone needs to be on social media" mantra.   Um... no, they don't. Everybody needs to be where it makes sense for their business and, for many, social media is not that place.   Bah.

pawelgra77
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Hi Danny, I couldn't agree more. In sales, it's all about the relationships. And, here is the thing. If you had bought something only because you had no previous knowledge of the produce and the salesman used it to his/her advantage, you know you won't be coming back for more.

 

But, take a guy who actually took the time listen to you, to explain the WHY behind the product, to care about you instead of his commission.... that's the guy that will get more business from you (and often, the people you know....). 

Danny Brown
Danny Brown moderator

 @pawelgra77 Agree, mate. It's why I go to certain bloggers or reviewers online, because I know they've used the product in question before recommending it. Or, they haven't liked, so they just don't write about it.

 

For me, that kind of approach is far more palatable than just going for the sale and the quick buck.

pawelgra77
pawelgra77

Hi Danny, I couldn't agree more. In sales, it's all about the relationships. And, here is the thing. If you had bought something only because you had no previous knowledge of the produce and the salesman used it to his/her advantage, you know you won't be coming back for more.   But, take a guy who actually took the time listen to you, to explain the WHY behind the product, to care about you instead of his commission.... that's the guy that will get more business from you (and often, the people you know....). 

DannyBrown
DannyBrown

 @pawelgra77 Agree, mate. It's why I go to certain bloggers or reviewers online, because I know they've used the product in question before recommending it. Or, they haven't liked, so they just don't write about it.   For me, that kind of approach is far more palatable than just going for the sale and the quick buck.

pawelgra77
pawelgra77

 @DannyBrown Oh man, with you on every word here....  

giftbasketvillascom
giftbasketvillascom

Great conversation. I don't want to be the Walmart for gift baskets either. I work a day job but am working towards independence and building my business, but social media marketing and getting your friends friends to buy from you is really difficult. I read about social guru Reid Hoffman, LinkedIn, believes that people have to get to know you personally and like you through your friends and building relationships!  Leander is right, people don't want to be pushed into a relationship.

Thanks for sharing.

Brenda

giftbasketvillascom
giftbasketvillascom

Great conversation. I don't want to be the Walmart for gift baskets either. I work a day job but am working towards independence and building my business, but social media marketing and getting your friends friends to buy from you is really difficult. I read about social guru Reid Hoffman, LinkedIn, believes that people have to get to know you personally and like you through your friends and building relationships!  Leander is right, people don't want to be pushed into a relationship. Thanks for sharing. Brenda

Leander Jackie Grogan
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For me, this yearning for independence and personal interaction rings true to the heart. Years ago, I couldn't understand why Target was laying off all it's knowledgeable, friendly sales people and why Ace Hardware, who kept its people was losing marketshare. Customers don't want to have to search the aisles for days to find someone with information about a product, or where certain goods are stocked. Customers want more help, not less. What was Target thinking?

As it turned out, they were thinking about "survival". They were losing out to big retailers like WalMart because they couldn't compete on price. Customers do it all the time. They drain the poor sales people at Ace or Radio Shack of their technical knowledge, and then run down the street to find the best price. In other words, today's customer feels no obligation to purchase if your price is out of whack. Back then, this is what Target was doing ... searching for that precise balance between people in the aisles and the cost of goods on the shelf. I don't know that they've found it yet. But at least the new business model requires that they do.

 

Here's the point, and Danny, you asked it in a beautiful question: Are you saying and doing what all your competitors are doing or are you doing what you’re doing?

 

Personal interaction is good. But do you have the other components - price, features, delivery, etc -  to go with it. Customer-to-customer selling builds relationship and is the best kind of selling. But people don't want to be punished for having a relationship with you. Find that precise balance that Southwest Airlines has. Try to give your customers the best of both worlds.

Danny Brown
Danny Brown moderator

 @Leander Jackie Grogan Awesome points, sir, and completely agree (I probably should have expanded on the post more).

 

Like you say, it's tough to offer the best service and then still see your customers go for price. Though I think this is more prevalent in the QSR market, as opposed to something more specialist.

 

For example, do you go to Best Buy for serious advice on top of the range home theater, or do you go to a THX-certified retailer?

 

I think there will always be a market for the service and offering over price - but I guess it can also depend on how "educated" the consumer is, and maybe that's where we really need to start.

 

Great thoughts, sir, thanks!

Leander Jackie Grogan
Leander Jackie Grogan

For me, this yearning for independence and personal interaction rings true to the heart. Years ago, I couldn't understand why Target was laying off all it's knowledgeable, friendly sales people and why Ace Hardware, who kept its people was losing marketshare. Customers don't want to have to search the aisles for days to find someone with information about a product, or where certain goods are stocked. Customers want more help, not less. What was Target thinking? As it turned out, they were thinking about "survival". They were losing out to big retailers like WalMart because they couldn't compete on price. Customers do it all the time. They drain the poor sales people at Ace or Radio Shack of their technical knowledge, and then run down the street to find the best price. In other words, today's customer feels no obligation to purchase if your price is out of whack. Back then, this is what Target was doing ... searching for that precise balance between people in the aisles and the cost of goods on the shelf. I don't know that they've found it yet. But at least the new business model requires that they do.   Here's the point, and Danny, you asked it in a beautiful question: Are you saying and doing what all your competitors are doing or are you doing what you’re doing?   Personal interaction is good. But do you have the other components - price, features, delivery, etc -  to go with it. Customer-to-customer selling builds relationship and is the best kind of selling. But people don't want to be punished for having a relationship with you. Find that precise balance that Southwest Airlines has. Try to give your customers the best of both worlds.

DannyBrown
DannyBrown

 @Leander Jackie Grogan Awesome points, sir, and completely agree (I probably should have expanded on the post more).   Like you say, it's tough to offer the best service and then still see your customers go for price. Though I think this is more prevalent in the QSR market, as opposed to something more specialist.   For example, do you go to Best Buy for serious advice on top of the range home theater, or do you go to a THX-certified retailer?   I think there will always be a market for the service and offering over price - but I guess it can also depend on how "educated" the consumer is, and maybe that's where we really need to start.   Great thoughts, sir, thanks!

KenMueller
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For me, this really gets to the heart of it. This is why I love working with small businesses, and why I believe small businesses are better equipped to have a strong social presence. They usually already have the required mindset. They just need to understand that, and then transfer their offline behavior to the online world. 

 

I live in a community where the buy local, buy small, buy fresh, support local mentality is huge, and it works. In business, in art, in music, in culture. 

 

I never want to be the Walmart of what I do.

Danny Brown
Danny Brown moderator

 @KenMueller There definitely seems more fluidity at smaller companies, mate - although, in fairness, that can often be allocated to red tape and legal handcuffs too, sadly.

 

But, yes, here's to Wally Mart, local garage owner, versus WalMart Inc. ;-)

KenMueller
KenMueller

For me, this really gets to the heart of it. This is why I love working with small businesses, and why I believe small businesses are better equipped to have a strong social presence. They usually already have the required mindset. They just need to understand that, and then transfer their offline behavior to the online world.    I live in a community where the buy local, buy small, buy fresh, support local mentality is huge, and it works. In business, in art, in music, in culture.    I never want to be the Walmart of what I do.

DannyBrown
DannyBrown

 @KenMueller There definitely seems more fluidity at smaller companies, mate - although, in fairness, that can often be allocated to red tape and legal handcuffs too, sadly.   But, yes, here's to Wally Mart, local garage owner, versus WalMart Inc. ;-)


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